As I've been desperate to fly lately, I've been toying with my atb at my house, and have noticed that my feet never seem to stay in the bindings well. I've noticed this at the field too, but I haven't been doing too much jumping there. Just to test, I put my feet in the bindings, pulled myself up on a pull up bar and just hanging there, barely moving at all, the board would fall off. If I tried swinging the board behind me, toes pointing down, like I see a lot of guys do in the air during a jump, there was no way to keep it on. I've tried tightening the bindings, but then my feet don't fit in far enough so thats no good. And when I loosen the bindings enough to fit over the tongue of my shoe, my foot feels snug for a second, but then if my feet move back at all they completely fall out of the bindings. I know a lot of guys say to turn your feet inwards against the binding, but that doesn't help. Its not so much a problem on the ground but once I learn to jump, I'll loose my board everytime. I have the velcro bindings, and I didn't know if I should consider a pair of the plastic click type ones. Is this a typical problem? If the bindings aren't the problem, what am I doing wrong?

step 1 jump on the spot and observe what angle your feet land.
step 2 stand on the board with the same stance
step 3 tighten your bindings until snug
step 4 rotate toes inwards until feet lock in
step 5 stop hanging from a bar and get under a kite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if all this fails then add curling your toes upwards aswell

When I jump in one place, my feet land at the same angle as when I first got onto the board. I've tried tightening and loosening my bindings and changing foot placement, none of that helped. When I rotate my toes inward, I never feel like my feet are locked in. When I jump up in the air, I can still feel that it is falling off my feet. The curling toes thing doesn't really help because its not like I can get my toes over the edge of the board to wrap around it, I'm wearing shoes. I really need to work it out because jumping is where I'm headed with ATB. Help?

What kind of shoes are you wearing? Is there griptape underneath the bindings?

There is griptape. I am wearing skateboarding shoes.

it sounds like your bindings are too tight. you should have your binding across the top 1/3 of your foot

That's what I tried. It feels really snug until my foot moves at all, then the board comes completely off. Carl, when I was watching your video, the secret spot, some of the large jumps at the end were what I was referring to when I said the thing about bending your knees back and pointing your toes downward. Just to give you an idea of how hard it is to keep my feet on the board, I would never have any chance of the board staying on my feet if I tried what you did in that video right now. It doesn't seem very complicated and I've done everything I can to the bingdings but nothing works. Any more ideas?

I have no clue if my technique is correct but i push against the outermost sides of each binding. My 1st 2 boards had posts and a strap They were rather loose and I had to push my legs wide to stay in . If I have a problem it is that I sometimes can't kick one side off now.

I have heard others say they rotate their feet once in the binding.

Lucky. So your saying that I should push out on the bindings? I've thought about that but it feels like a real strain when I try it. When you are in the air with the landboard on, are you really working hard to keep it to stay on, or are you just making minor adjustments with your feet? When I am in the air, I have to try way too hard to keep it on my feet, and even then, it doesn't stay on. I've got to work this out, so any suggestions? I know there's not much more I can do but I know there has got to be something that will help correct this issue.

Wow I am stumped. :puzzled:

I don't really think about keeping the board on my feet when I jump. It just stays there. I have had my bindings loose latley trying to do some tricks just in case i need to bail. still doesn't fall off unless i kick it off.

Super glue

Well maybe its the bindings. I really don't know. Has anyone else had problems with the mbs atom 95 bindings? Are the ratchet type bindings a possible solution?

maybe bindings too small? Like kids size. Did you buy that atom new?

dump the skate shoe

get a shoe /boot with larger toe box ( like a steel toe boot)

also maybe with a wider fore foot

keen clogs are a fav of mine

the bindings should be snug across the top of the foot and should be able remove it without too much effort

I bought the atom used once but otherwise new, no modifications were made to the board or bindings if that's what your're talking about. The online description of the atom 95 says it has the F1 one bindings, and in parentheses, good for smaller feet. Maybe this is my problem? I don't no why making the bindings any looser would help it stay on better though. Phree- I guess I could use another shoe, but a boot won't fit into these bindings. One thing that does solve the problem but is too dangerous is to put the strap under the tongue of my shoe. That really locks me in. Too well.

how about these?

http://www.mbs.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idProduct=80

Those definitely look like they would help. But I'd rather just buy a new pair of bindings because regular old bindings clearly work for most guys. Dino, do you think new bindings would help this problem? If so, what kind?

I haven't used any of them to be honest. My buggy is just too comfortable to get on a landboard. I have strapped into the f3 and f4 bindings before. I don't see how you could come out of either of those. BUT with that said do you want to spend that kind of money on that board? To me I don't know if that is a good investment. That board is simply not designed to do what you want to do with it. I'm afraid you would end up with some bad a$$ bindings and a trashed board in no time. Just my thought.

You mean its not designed to jump with? And that the bindings wouldn't help? I was hoping that I could just throw on some new bindings and solve the problem. How will I end up trashing the board?

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Originally posted by power You mean its not designed to jump with? And that the bindings wouldn't help? I was hoping that I could just throw on some new bindings and solve the problem. How will I end up trashing the board?

Yes I mean that board is not made for jumping. I'm sure the bindings would help your problem ... but my worry is how long will the board last when you start jumping with it. I don't know the board may be fine .. and your light weight so it may be fine, but I'm fairly confident that if I jumped with it and came down hard a few times that board would be splinters.

I'm not really worried about breaking it, especially because I'm not coming down on it too hard with the kite's float, and like you said I'm pretty light. I just got this board about a month ago, and I'm not ready to buy another one, especially because the next one up is another couple hundred. But then again its a waste to buy a pair of bindings and then get another board that has them already. So I'm in a bit of a jam...

Is this a good deal and would this be suitable for my needs (jumping)? I am considering it because its got the talons and its gotten a bunch of great bumps.

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Originally posted by power I don't no why making the bindings any looser would help it stay on better though.

I have a mbs core 95 and I found that every time I ride my feet start to cramp because of constant effort of holding my feet in. The other day a kid was trying it and loosened the bindings. I got on after him and was supprised how much better the bindings fit with them looser. I assumed my feet would fall out easier but I was better balanced and I was able to push my feet into the bindings without making my feet cramp. I know it sounds weird and may not work for you but it worked for me. Try it before you spend any more money

BTW the last post seemed to be missing a link or something.
Good Luck, If you can find help anywhere it will be here

re board splintering - does your board bottom out when you bounce up and down on it? if no then it should be ok for jumping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObNSURYIj9E

the answer to all your problems

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Originally posted by powerPhree- I guess I could use another shoe, but a boot won't fit into these bindings.

A boot should fit into those bindings as both my construction boots and my combat boots fit nicely. As for the rest of the discussion, I never really jumped on it and have no useful input.

GI Talons, request new style mounting brackets which are MBS compatable.

the velcro type bindings are good for learning so you can get out easier. if you swing your board backside, you need to point up toes up so the board doesnt fall off.

you might want to upgrade the Racket Type from either MBS or GI so a snug fit.

or there is always snowboarding bindings, or the mbs binding. ehehehe, I have used mine in ages (see pic). BR you up for some ankle damage?