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[*] posted on 29-4-2010 at 08:50 AM


Hey, I also have this in "For Sale" but since were on the rare subject of landsailers, I'm selling an extra 3 meter yellow Stage 2 Blokart sail. It's in good condition. Couple of small stains on it but I never really tried to clean it. I never used it - Not enough wind for my big butt inland. There's a pic in the For Sale posting.

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No mast sections are included as those typically come with the Blokart except when you upgrade to a larger sail, you get additonal mast sections.

It comes with pulley whip, battons, sheet line and boom. (Stage 2). $450 shipped anywhere in the world, standard mail.



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[*] posted on 29-4-2010 at 09:18 AM


saw it pkt.
i'm most likely going with the Sirocco Sprint. will your sail rig up to Sirocco?
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Not sure how the Sirocco is rigged. I think the bottom of the sail is curved and is attached to the boom on the Sirocco? The boom is sort of internal in the Blokart sail but can be easily removed.

Ask the dealer. I talked to him last year when I bought my Blokarts and he said you can use other wind surfer sails with some mods so you might be able to use the Blokart sail without the BK boom.

I'll make you a better deal on the sail if you CAN'T use it !! :lol:



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[*] posted on 1-5-2010 at 02:09 PM


Anyone who is interested in trying out a Blokart to experience landsailing, I'll be bringing both of mine to JIBE this year along with my buggy stuff. I'll need some Sherpas for sure...
I'll be there Thursday and leaving Sunday night so I welcome people to play with them. Don't worry if you're a buggy pilot, it's not like your cheating on your kite, it's just getting a little strange...;)

BTW, 3 Meter Blokart sail in "For Sale". Price dropped to $300 shipped, if anyone is interested.



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[*] posted on 4-10-2010 at 01:39 PM


Hey, no one's posted on this in a while so I thought I'd see who's still playing. When I'm not buggying, I'm landsailing. Bringing 1, maybe 2 Blokarts to Fall WBB! You can't help but giggle like an idiot when you ride 30+ mph with a full sail.

I still feel like I'm cheating on my buggy though.



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I did go with the Sirocco Sprint (4.2m ,5.2m) w/upgraded large tires and front fork.
After spending a few good (high wind) sessions 'Landsailing' I'll say it's a pretty cool ride. Just point, shoot, and not to worry about kite/lines contacting all the field "junk" i have to contend with.
Even with only about 10 hours of (decent/good wind) riding under my belt I say that using a boat set up with hand steering would be fine as I often find myself using just one hand at a time on the sheet line anyhow (as the other is sometimes hangin on to a mast brace :lol: )
I think I'm going to need a 6.?m sail. My 5.2m sail does not really make 'fun' until about 20kp/h (on grass and I'm 185 ish). I think I had the 4.2m in winds(gusts) up to 45-50 kp/h (according to weather channel at least) and the situation was nowhere near "hairy". A buggy with a 3m kite would be a different story (in my cramped quarters). Can't imagine winds needed for 3(ish)m sails on grass.

*I got a call from Sirocco(Daniel) stating there is going to be a Landsailing 'thing' at Ivanpah Nov 1,2,and 3. Not sure if it's all manufactures or just Sirocco. I'd like to see(pilot) a Blokart. If they can handle the #@%$#!'n abuse I ride on then I wouldn't be opposed to having one here. In the back of my uninformed mind I do think they are light duty (hard pack sand/asphalt) though. I'd sure like to be surprised though as they do pack down well to travel (flight) with.

*I'd like to add another dirtboat to my collection but I'd def like to trade/sell some kites/buggy(s) to offset cost(s) especially cuz I know the buggy and kites are not going to get use much anymore.
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Rev, I have the 4m and 5.5m for my Blokarts and I usually use the 5.5 and it hauls my big 225lb butt no sweat on short polo field grass in anything over a steady 12 mph. 15+ and I'm cruising on 2 wheels. I can use the 4m for great performance in 18+. I've never used my 3m. I've used it for my 12 year old son on a nukin' day. I can tell you, Blokarts are pretty tough despite the thinner tubing. I like Sirocco for the beefyness. I've flipped mine going 30+ and bent the mast support side tube with my fat ass (the one I hold on to also..;)) but that's it. It bends right back. After a few crashes, it all still looks good. I'd like to try a Sirocco myself, but it's tough to beat the portability of the Blokart. The other positive is there are tons of upgrades and spares available. Downside is the cost of a sail. 5.5m with optional Ultra Carbon base sections was over $1100. Normally it would have been around $895 or something like that. I'd like the foot steering too but the ones I've tried (Zooter) have a short wheel base and are pretty unstable at high speed like a small buggy but it makes for great tricking. The Sprint seemed kind of short too compared to the stretch of the bigger Sirocco or Blokart. How's the handling of yours? In the end, I guess it's a toss up of how portable you need it.

Like I said, I have 2, dont "NEED" both and unless I get my kids more involved with it, one of them is going to turn into a kite or cash. I'll let you know if I decide to sell one. Might be soon after WBB. I'm bringing both up there and I'll see how much use I 'll get out of them both..



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Rev, I have the 4m and 5.5m for my Blokarts and I usually use the 5.5 and it hauls my big 225lb butt no sweat on short polo field grass in anything over a steady 12 mph. 15+ and I'm cruising on 2 wheels. I can use the 4m for great performance in 18+. I've never used my 3m. I've used it for my 12 year old son on a nukin' day. I can tell you, Blokarts are pretty tough despite the thinner tubing. I like Sirocco for the beefyness. I've flipped mine going 30+ and bent the mast support side tube with my fat ass (the one I hold on to also..;)) but that's it. It bends right back. After a few crashes, it all still looks good. I'd like to try a Sirocco myself, but it's tough to beat the portability of the Blokart. The other positive is there are tons of upgrades and spares available. Downside is the cost of a sail. 5.5m with optional Ultra Carbon base sections was over $1100. Normally it would have been around $895 or something like that. I'd like the foot steering too but the ones I've tried (Zooter) have a short wheel base and are pretty unstable at high speed like a small buggy but it makes for great tricking. The Sprint seemed kind of short too compared to the stretch of the bigger Sirocco or Blokart. How's the handling of yours? In the end, I guess it's a toss up of how portable you need it.

Like I said, I have 2, dont "NEED" both and unless I get my kids more involved with it, one of them is going to turn into a kite or cash. I'll let you know if I decide to sell one. Might be soon after WBB. I'm bringing both up there and I'll see how much use I 'll get out of them both..


225 eh?! well that speaks well for the BKs.
i'm 5'10-ish so leg room never is an issue. The Sprint's down tube is easily adjustable. To house the large turf tire I have an upgraded (large) front fork though and i'm guessing that the extra width of the fork does effect the turning radius. I don't think I'm qualified to comment on handling being that I only rode one boat and not very much TITS(time in the saddle). All's i can say is it sure is fun and less hassle than a kite/buggy combo (for me and my tight quarters). I've done a lot of power slides with counter steering input and a lot of two wheeled sailing in my short time. Haven't tipped her over yet. I don't know if that all means that the boat handles well, if I'm a "natural talent", or, if I'm a puss.
i've appreciated "everything" BK has to offer from the start and now that i actually have a dirt boat i can appreciate more. been looking at BKs again lately and am wondering if the "comp" is any more "robust" than the "Pro" model or are the two same spec with one(Pro) just being more resistant to rust?
-BTW is it just me or did prices on anything/everything BK go up huge?
iirc when i initially started my landsailer quest BKs prices did not stand out as they do know. At the time the price difference(s) between a Sirocco and a BK was hardly a considerable factor.
ie. i seem to recall a Shadow(side car attachment) was about $200 less than what it's listed for now.



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Don't know if the BK prices went up, I bought all my stuff a couple years ago and haven't needed any parts in a while. The tipping over came from trying to learn to jibe and not handling the sail timing properly (sheet in/out) or from a huge gust that slammed me over before I could react on the sheet rope. Once, my buddy and I were using both of mine and riding side by side when a rain and wind squall came out of nowhere and lit us up faster than we could handle and tossed us over at the same time like a nuclear blast. I'm sure we were going about 40 plus before we lost it. We were both using suicide knots on the sheet line so we couldn't unload the sail. I don't do that anymore unless I'm somewhere like a beach with steady & predictable winds. We both got lumpped up on that one and bent the crap out of the mast supports.



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[*] posted on 5-10-2010 at 05:05 AM


Dirt Boat :lol: that's funny.

I came over here to see what you guys were up to. Chris your buggy has hurt feelings every time to take out that "other girl".



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Dirt Boat :lol: that's funny.

I came over here to see what you guys were up to. Chris your buggy has hurt feelings every time to take out that "other girl".


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Don't know if the BK prices went up, I bought all my stuff a couple years ago and haven't needed any parts in a while. The tipping over came from trying to learn to jibe and not handling the sail timing properly (sheet in/out) or from a huge gust that slammed me over before I could react on the sheet rope. Once, my buddy and I were using both of mine and riding side by side when a rain and wind squall came out of nowhere and lit us up faster than we could handle and tossed us over at the same time like a nuclear blast. I'm sure we were going about 40 plus before we lost it. We were both using suicide knots on the sheet line so we couldn't unload the sail. I don't do that anymore unless I'm somewhere like a beach with steady & predictable winds. We both got lumpped up on that one and bent the crap out of the mast supports.

wow i can imagine...
when you say "suicide knot" i'm guessing you had sail sheeted to the max and sheet line 'tied off' at that point and not simply having the very end of sheet line half hitched to a mast base to keep it from dragging/catching an axle/tire.
BTW have a google at some current BK prices and see if your memory isn't jogged as to wow those are higher than i paid.
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Suicide knot is a half hitch in the end of the line, tied off to the mast support or hanging free, to keep the end of the sheet rope from pulling thru the pulley on the mast base if you accidently let the rope go. If you're in trouble, you should be able to let the rope go, let it slip thru, basically luffing the sail.

Here's the bad scenario (what happened to me and my buddy for real) --, your getting overpowered, about to tip, your going wayyyyyy to fast to turn up-wind safely because you WILL flip over from sheer speed and momentum along with the howling wind pushing your sail over, you let go of the sheet rope out of instinct, the knot you shouldnt have jams up against the mast base pulley, the sail is now 90 degrees to the boat fully powered and you can't pull the rope back from the force of the HOOOJ gust. Your choice is to basically try to ride it out, cry, or try to turn. Before you can do anything, the gust gets even HOOOOjer and blows you over FORWARD. SLAM! Faceplant.

I thought about getting one of those cleats to lock the sheet rope in, and with a quick pull, would release. Thats what alot of folks do to add "cruise control". Different from the suicide knot.



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That vivid description paints quite a picture! Almost got bruised reading it. Didn't think you could pitch-pole a BK!



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I have been telling my wife that the blokarts are safer than the buggys. But you are not helping the situation at all with those type of stories :crazy:



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Dont be alarmed! Your TV set is functioning Properly,,,

Really, they are very safe. What happened to me was because I took a safety shortcut and combined that with the worst possible weather condition that really came out of nowhere. When I say nowhere, I mean figuratively--it was a good windy day anyway. 18 - 20+mph , just right for a fat guy in a Blokart but the squall hit like a sledge. I suppose if I was better at reading the sky, I might have anticipated and not have been riding.
We didn't see any rain wall or anything. This was at OOBE Field by the way... The same thing happened to some of us riding at OOBE a couple years ago, a huge gust hit, lofted and slammed me flying a 7 m Blurr in normally 8-10mph winds and dragged BeamerBob's son Wexler about a hundred feet or so all in one blast. ("OOBE Field" for a reason)

And Angus, the flip wasn't quite a pitch pole, but real close because of the load on the sail. Dont know how the mast didn't snap.

Dont mean to alarm anyone out of a Blokart or any landsailer. I should have recieved the Darwin Award and like anything we do regarding wind, it's always a risk.

I let my 12 year old son ride all the time.

It's similar to stropping into a fixed bridle. Not always fast enough to eject so I'm very careful when I use a strop, even with my fancy panic release.



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Dont be alarmed! Your TV set is functioning Properly,,,

This was at OOBE Field by the way... The same thing happened to some of us riding at OOBE a couple years ago, a huge gust hit, lofted and slammed me flying a 7 m Blurr in normally 8-10mph winds and dragged BeamerBob's son Wexler about a hundred feet or so all in one blast. ("OOBE Field" for a reason)



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I have been telling my wife that the blokarts are safer than the buggys. But you are not helping the situation at all with those type of stories :crazy:

in my short time at it and how I ride and where I ride, I'd say 'Landsailing' is generally less hazardous/more enjoyable than buggy'n. I have a semi-large area but it is divided(cluttered) by; playgrounds, trees, grandstands, sideline benches, ditches, soccer goals, football/rugby uprights, outhouses, garbage barrells, and, people.
riding/sailing/piloting the dirtboat is quite a load off my mind concerning all the obstacles.
I have seen(you tube) a lot clips of small (BK/Sirocco Sprint) sized landsailers that include footage of the tip-overs and the piltot is not ejected from boat/vehicle as is usually the case with a buggy "OBE".
BKs have a 5 point harness upgrade, rather than a simple the lap belt, that'll really hold rider from ejecting.

- do not try to stop a tipover by putting a foot down
is the golden rule i received with my dirtboat.
(also don't wear lap belt on ice).
the rest of the rules/guidlelines are same as buggy'n...
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