V13 safety release.

Any body re rigged one of these? This one uses a power line attachment that is going thru a small d ring on the adjuster.

What happened twice was the Velcro at the chicken loop was hard to pull out far enough to release the chicken loop once you finally get it to release,, a problem also

the knot where the power line feeds thu the D rings hangs in the ring. Well then you've dropped the bar and the kite doesn't flag.

Ever hear a woman scream, "OH NOOOOOO", hahahaha

I had to grab the bar and yank the crap out of it before she went for a ride. Then I flew it and tried the safety also, same deal.

Maybe I should just remove the D ring and let the flagging safety line hang.

Not sure what to do about the chicken loop part. Would cutting the steel pin to make it shorter be a problem?

i'm lost and need a pic, should be just like your 19, compare or you could use the same bar and lines for both

I am not sure how a picture of "a woman screaming, 'OH NOOOOOO'" is going to help.




ATB,
Sam

Now THATS funny.

hmm judging from the photo the bar release is good and she has the wrist cuff for the safety leash but it doesn't appear to be attached - love the PFD.


one thing you might check on the set up is where you have the safety leash attached. With a ring system the flying line passes through ring#1 then attaches to ring #2. Ring #1 is physically attached to the bar/trim set up. You attach the safety to ring #2 so you are holding the single line and all the rest slides away. If you attach to ring #1 it won't slide away properly and you end up holding onto a kite that is now spinning by the leash.

Or it could be a knot issue like you said hanging up on the D ring and then you would need to yank the leash to get it to run through.

If you have an older Zero4 bar that had a D ring on the adjustment strap it was originally a way of keeping the leash partly supported from dangling but it could hang up the leash on a knot so it was removed (or don't pass the leash through it).

Sounds like a Zero4 bar and cos it didn't release easily, consistently they changed that to the red hat on the Zero7 - which pops off too easy
... should be an easy upgrade to the Navigator Chickentronix loop or whatever it's called ...?

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Originally posted by markite Or it could be a knot issue like you said hanging up on the D ring and then you would need to yank the leash to get it to run through. If you have an older Zero4 bar that had a D ring on the adjustment strap it was originally a way of keeping the leash partly supported from dangling but it could hang up the leash on a knot so it was removed (or don't pass the leash through it).

Yep, thats it. the knot and larks head wouldn't pass thru the D ring. First I thought it was because the D ring was flat side out so I turned it to be round side out and it hung again.

Guess I'll just remove it from the D ring and let it hang.

Phree, the 19 has a new Zero 7 bar. I'll try and get a pic of the chicken loop set up. The above can be an easy fix but that won't matter much if you can't get the release free.

I've got to make it so she can flag the kite easy. Ummm she can't have my bar. LOL

The 13m has a short bar compared to the 60cm zero 7. I will see how it flys with the longer bar.

I like the stall and backing down then flag like you showed us .but not with this bar. The kite is headed to Z before you can get it loose.

Its possibly called the Zero 4 Kami.

Wolf, where in the heck do you find this stuff. LOL

First time I tried to release my Zero4, I was yanking on the red ball like I was chokin' a chicken ... damn thing wouldn't release!

My suggestion would be to retrofit the Zero7 chicken loop and depower line ...
http://www.coastalwindsports.com/servlet/the-564/Peter-Lynn-...
#3 would be all you need IIRC - $42 and a lot less fannying around trying to mod the Zero4!

Thinking about taking 1/2" off the steel pin so it doesn't have to be pulled so far back to release.

The line will be removed from the D ring.

the pin on the quick release ,

or the flag line slide above the trim strap.

the pull pin on the quick release don't know if i 've used that, if you cut it it will bleed rust ,i think its plated. i would not do it. i just unhook and let go to the flag line

the slide rig ABOVE the trim strap is small and will not allow a sleeved knot to pass through easily ...not until you reshape it! i use alot of sleeved line sets that have knotted loops and "opened" up the fixed ring a bit. not much very slight .

still not sure if thats any help

Replace it with a Zero7 loop and sell that one to me for $32 :D

Unhooking is probably the best way. A magnet doesnt stick to the pin, so maybe its stainless. I guess in an emergency, you would have no problem pulling the pin out far enough.

I found when I took the pic, if you pull straight back it works better anyway. Maybe we had a tendency to pull back and up at the same time.

Unhooking has a second benefit. That thing isn't easy to re assemble after you pull the pin.

Kami,, I see your need. LOL
It wont be accidently be coming lose. That red top hat thingy has to be checked every few minutes. In another forum I read where people are using tape around the rope to build it up, that way they can have some friction to slide the top hat over.

I might try some electrical tape on mine. Its a cheep enough fix that can be replaced often.

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Originally posted by Hardrock Wolf, where in the heck do you find this stuff. LOL

Wolves = hunters & foragers

Not a big fan of electrical tape, as the adhesive will turn into goo if your gear is in the car for any length of time. It will also put out a clarion call to every piece of grit, dust with aspirations of bunnyhood, etc..... a stained sail would just be gravy on the turkey.

Holy crap....after looking more closely at all the Zero4 pics, I can see why Kam recommended a retrofit..... not sure that would be the worst way to go.

Lose the Red Hat ($9 plus shipping) a couple of times and you are well on your way to paying for it.

ATB,
Sam

Your right again!!! The tape will be a mess in no time.

This thread might be of interest to you:
Zero4 Upgrade?

I know the issue with the Red Hat being too easily orphaned has come up before, as one person lost theirs in the water and they were pretty much done until they got a resplacement.

Still mulling over whether there might be an easier little to no cost fix. :puzzled:

Two gens back at this point, but seems like there should have been a more comprehensive fix during the active product life of the product.

ATB,
Sam

Looking at the long throw CL I got from erm someone, there's the scratchy side of velcro on the inside of the ejection slider thing, no doubt to add a bit of friction. Turning the red hat upside works fine, although it's cutting into the sponge cover on the bar a little ...
Perhaps some velcro could be the answer? Or perhaps just swapping it out for the Navigator Centrix thingy?

Losing the red hat - happened to me onshore once. I hung onto the bar & grabbed the OS handle but in that short time, the depower line pulled its way mostly through the bar hole that was a PITA to get back through! There is a little tab that should dangle out the bottom of the hat to stop it coming off, but with enough force it'd just slide right off ...!

I need to take a closer look. I turned the hat upside down also but didn't know you could lose it.