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[*] posted on 1-7-2010 at 02:24 PM


Wildwood / Wildwood Crest has a big sign forbidding unregistered "vehicles of any kind" - but they don't seem to mind buggying after-hours there during the tourist season.
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[*] posted on 1-7-2010 at 02:38 PM


Donnie, sounds like you are in a real battle! I don't know that you could describe it as a vehicle or not! There is no motor, or pedals so it is not motor powered or human powered it is more like wind powered with Human assistance. What a bunch of lame ducks down there! I know you were pretty much the only one flying there, like they have nothing else better to do than bug you. Looks to me that they need to put it in black or white or leave you alone. Maybe you should offer to let one of the nice officers try it and see that you are not out to tear up the beach or scare off any nice little birds or anything else! Fun police suck!

Good Luck wish I could help in some way!





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[*] posted on 1-7-2010 at 02:49 PM


You know I think I am leaning more toward the Human powered side, you could sit in it all day and it won't go anywhere till you the human fly a kite.





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[*] posted on 1-7-2010 at 03:03 PM


I can even sit in it and fly and go absolutely nowhere. If I fly a kite while skateboarding, is it a kite powered skateboard?



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[*] posted on 1-7-2010 at 03:08 PM


I ought to go out in my neighborhood and get someone to push me around until a cop sees me, and see what he says it is.



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[*] posted on 1-7-2010 at 03:19 PM


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I ought to go out in my neighborhood and get someone to push me around until a cop sees me, and see what he says it is.


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[*] posted on 1-7-2010 at 05:24 PM


Human powered = bicycle, skateboard, pedal boat ...

Clearly the buggy is wind-powered.
A yacht won't go anywhere until you sheet in the mainsail - nor will a car move until you press the gas pedal. Trying to argue either of those as being "human powered" is specious.

Good luck though ...



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[*] posted on 2-7-2010 at 12:08 PM


Hey Sailors,
I believe the "wind-powered" aspect has the day.
The real issue is whether or not the buggy is a "vehicle" as defined by cited statutes of the State of Virginia.
I believe it is not a "vehicle" as defined.

I believe Mike Dooley had this very issue arise a couple years ago in California.
Went to court and won!
There is precedent for the buggy not being a "vehicle".

Courts love precedents.

Contact Mike for more specific info.


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[*] posted on 2-7-2010 at 01:03 PM


There are no court records for Mikes case since it was settled out of court. Some of us did a bunch of searching and talking with Mike to get this information.

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[*] posted on 2-7-2010 at 01:49 PM


It's time to take a stand and push the issue. The park rules clearly state "no MOTORIZED vehicles"



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[*] posted on 2-7-2010 at 02:27 PM


Right on Donnie! Take a pic of the sign and show them what it says then take them a pic of the buggy and show it has no means of propulsion!





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[*] posted on 2-7-2010 at 09:53 PM


From the sound of it he'll get....

Hmmm no motor eh you must be hiding it in those big tires, what else would you be using em for. Anyway the bird gods say you have displeased them.

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[*] posted on 3-7-2010 at 02:33 AM


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Right on Donnie! Take a pic of the sign and show them what it says then take them a pic of the buggy and show it has no means of propulsion!

And just remember, comments like "It's just as well they don't leave making laws up to idiots like you then isn't it?" can be counterproductive ...



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[*] posted on 3-7-2010 at 06:25 AM


so I guess it would also be bad to call him the "bird police" or maybe.. officer "Turkey Bacon":lol::lol::frog:



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[*] posted on 3-7-2010 at 08:24 AM


WG I wouldn't give a rats arse, I would go do my thing with the buggy and have my day in court. Thats the only way you'll get an appointment anyway, to discuss it and get a final clear understanding of the law. Then if you win, LOL,,, you'll have the proof for every jonny cop that comes around.

The ticket will have to be for using a motorized vehicle, as thats the rule you'll be breaking, then go prove its not.

How many folks in here will chip in three dollars for WG's fine if he has to pay one?

I would, I'd like to see how this ends up.

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[*] posted on 3-7-2010 at 01:49 PM


HR, I went and did my thing, nobody showed up. And I was squeeky clean while I was there.:saint:



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[*] posted on 4-7-2010 at 08:07 AM


Great, maybe they will used to you being there and leave you alone.
The cops will be thinking it must ok, he's here all the time.

wish you the best luck with it.



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