Dagon
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need Libre bearing codes
the rear bearings on both vmax and hardcore are 6204, front bearings on hardcore is 6201, but I dont know the code for the front bearings for the
vmax.
can someone tell me please?
NAPKRA: US32
my bag:
Ted's Profoil 1.5m
HQ beamer 1.4m
Ozone Samurai 2.0m
JoJo RM+ 2.5m, 3m
PL Vapor 3.8m
PL Viper S 5.3m
Ozone Frenzy 05 10m
PKD Century 6.5m
Libre Hardcore
Libre V-Max
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Todd
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All I could come up with was the part numbers from John's site but it didn't give me any indication of a code number.
SCH
Ball bearings
SCH 0156
Ball bearing Ø 28/12 for suspension axle
SCH 0152
Ball bearing Ø 32/12 front wheel / down tube
SCH 0153
Ball bearing Ø 47/20 rear wheel
SCH 0154
Ball bearing Ø 42/20 Big Foot
SCH 0155
Ball bearing Ø 52/20 disc wheel
From his site
Libre part numbers
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Scudley
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If they are 6201 2RS bearings, you can get lots of 10 for $10 at VBX bearings. They are cheap Chinese bearings, but at two bucks to swap them out they are a better deal than SKF. The same bearings are used in
the PL buggies.
S
Is it possible to design for strength, if the designer doesn't really understand what strength is?
8m speed wings.
Ozone Samurai 3m
Sky Country Reflex 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10m new 6m!
Sky Country NaSCa 2 11m
Sky Country Alasca 10m - sold
Rhombus Firebee 3m (ret).
Libre Vampir Race Pro 2.6m
Jojo Rage 8m
www.skycountry.ca
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Krohn1999
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dependes what wheel you are using and what Axle bolt you have. Also look if it is with adapter 12/20.. or not.
Lots of possibilities
GPA G1580
NAPKA US13
Buggy:
APEXX
MG-AERO on Disc Wheels
Kite bag:
Ozone Yakuza GT, Methode, Flow, Imp
Peter Lynn Reactor II, VAPOR, Core
PKD Century II, Brooza II
Wolkensturmer Ventura
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ripsessionkites
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spend the money to get some good bearings ... they last longer and have you moving faster.
i beat the guy above .... hehehe :duh:
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arkay
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VBX does have some decent bearings... I've been using those for my roller hockey skates with good luck but havne't thrown a lot of dirt or sand at
them.
US503 - Manzanita, Oregon
Fixed Bridal: Flexifoil Sting 1.2, 1.7; Rage Acid 2.5m, 3.5m, 4.7m, 6m | Peter Lynn Vapor 11.2m, 16.1m | NPW 7m
Depower : Peter Lynn Venom 2 13m, 16m, 19m | Peter Lynn Phantom 15m | Flysurfer 2.5 SA 19m
LEI : Flexifoil Atom 7m, 9m, 12m; Mutiny 8m
Land rides : Libre Hardcore; Libre v-max; Peter Lynn XR+W | Rollerblade Coyotes! | Ground Industries AK Pro
Water rides : Slingshot Misfit 134; Ocean Rodeo Mako 150; North WAM! 5\'10
4 Sale/Trade: HQ M1 5m, Flysurfer Pulse 10, PL Venom 2 16m, PL Venom 19m
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Scudley
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Quote: | Originally posted by ripsessionkites
spend the money to get some good bearings ... they last longer and have you moving faster.
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Seeing as the spec for limiting speed on these bearings is 17000 rpm and buggy with 16" tires doing 80mph is only running at 1700 rpm I doubt that SKF
bearings are that much faster to be worth 8x as much. I have talked about the issue of cheap bearings vs brand name with several mechanics. Their
conclusion was that if replacement requires much shop time, use the expensive bearings otherwise the cheap ones are fine.
S
Is it possible to design for strength, if the designer doesn't really understand what strength is?
8m speed wings.
Ozone Samurai 3m
Sky Country Reflex 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10m new 6m!
Sky Country NaSCa 2 11m
Sky Country Alasca 10m - sold
Rhombus Firebee 3m (ret).
Libre Vampir Race Pro 2.6m
Jojo Rage 8m
www.skycountry.ca
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ripsessionkites
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Quote: | Originally posted by Scudley
Quote: | Originally posted by ripsessionkites
spend the money to get some good bearings ... they last longer and have you moving faster.
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Seeing as the spec for limiting speed on these bearings is 17000 rpm and buggy with 16" tires doing 80mph is only running at 1700 rpm I doubt that SKF
bearings are that much faster to be worth 8x as much. I have talked about the issue of cheap bearings vs brand name with several mechanics. Their
conclusion was that if replacement requires much shop time, use the expensive bearings otherwise the cheap ones are fine.
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if youre competitive in racing or speed you want good bearings. getting to 100 km/h is easier achieved on smooth rolling bearings, many top pilots are
going to those self adjusting bearings as well.
it isnt about "brand", its about "type" of bearing you use.
you can cut down service if you clean, rinse after beach use. also one idea i picked up at WC is bolt covers (refer to the teaser video).
;-)
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Scudley
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Rip, I just looked at your times at the WC. If you think expensive bearings are going to make your times close to competitive, you are going to need
something like ceramic silicon nitride, spherical bearings. I may not race, but I am pretty sure that even the best bearings are not going to move
you from 55th up to 1st place, unless the bearings you are using now are completely seized.
Dagon, the cheap VBX bearings will serve you just fine.
S
Is it possible to design for strength, if the designer doesn't really understand what strength is?
8m speed wings.
Ozone Samurai 3m
Sky Country Reflex 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10m new 6m!
Sky Country NaSCa 2 11m
Sky Country Alasca 10m - sold
Rhombus Firebee 3m (ret).
Libre Vampir Race Pro 2.6m
Jojo Rage 8m
www.skycountry.ca
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csa_deadon
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You get what you pay for.
Just my two cents.
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What I ride, and fly
Custom KBSS Libre Hardcore with John Deer tires!
Ozone R1 11m, Ozone Summit 10ul, 15m ul
Wish list:
Wind powered portable coffee maker.
Chrono, Chrono, Chrono!
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Krohn1999
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Quote: | Originally posted by Scudley
Rip, I just looked at your times at the WC. If you think expensive bearings are going to make your times close to competitive, you are going to need
something like ceramic silicon nitride, spherical bearings. I may not race, but I am pretty sure that even the best bearings are not going to move
you from 55th up to 1st place, unless the bearings you are using now are completely seized.
Dagon, the cheap VBX bearings will serve you just fine.
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Actually I filled them with super glue at night.
I do have to say that Number 55 in the world is pretty damm good.
If I could just figure out what Rip did to my Bearings?:wee:
Ohya
@Dagon
go ahead and buy the cheap bearings but order a coulpe of sets you'll need them.
My Record for cheap bearing destruction is from new to scrap in under 1 hour. You also have to hope that you are not going really fast when she blows
because if the outer race starts to turn inside the rim you'll need a new one of them also.
GPA G1580
NAPKA US13
Buggy:
APEXX
MG-AERO on Disc Wheels
Kite bag:
Ozone Yakuza GT, Methode, Flow, Imp
Peter Lynn Reactor II, VAPOR, Core
PKD Century II, Brooza II
Wolkensturmer Ventura
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ripsessionkites
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Quote: | Originally posted by Scudley
Rip, I just looked at your times at the WC. If you think expensive bearings are going to make your times close to competitive, you are going to need
something like ceramic silicon nitride, spherical bearings. I may not race, but I am pretty sure that even the best bearings are not going to move
you from 55th up to 1st place, unless the bearings you are using now are completely seized.
Dagon, the cheap VBX bearings will serve you just fine.
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TIMES? they were based on laps. unfortunately for my first HUGE race it was pretty good being stuck in a technical zone with the complete Dutch Team.
luckily on one of the races i got out before they did and placed 36. ask Chris he was there, he knew how small it was, but lucky enough to be the with
BE and AUS team. get it right #54 in the world!!! :tumble:
bearing have nothing to do with the racing. on this side of earth is seem like its about going fast / speed.
no one said anything about going to 1st its all skill and continuing to practice. the correct kite choice per race.
i understand you dont know what racing is or speed for that matter but at 100km/h+ everything needs to be quality.
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