AJsnowkiter
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Ozone Method or Ozone Access XT?
Which do you think is better for snowkiting? The Ozone Method or The Ozone Access XT? I was looking at the Ozone method 6.5m and the Ozone Access XT
6m just fyi.
Thanks for you help,
AJ
Have:
Cabrinha 11.5m CO2
Cabrinha 19.5m Contra
Ozone Imp Trainer 3.5m
HQ Scout II 5m
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shaggs2riches
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I would say the access; however, it also would depend on your weight, experience and especially what winds you plan on riding in. The method will most
likely work in a lower end but with the 6m access you will need at least 20mph to efficiently get riding if you are over 160lbs. At 180lbs last year
(195 now) I mostly could do down winders working the kite lots 17-20mph. Might have been part my skill though. Now if you are experienced and looking
for a higher winds kite this thing will do wonders. Very user friendly and handles gusts like a charm.
what I fly/ride:
19m Flysurfer Speed 2 SA
12m Flysurfer Speed2
6m Ozone access xt
1.5m Ozone imp trainer
144cm Airush Switch
152cm lib tech skate banana
MBS Pro 90
Jereme Leafe Pro 95
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erratic winds
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Well, it's depower vs NOT.... In my book the choice is always depower, so I'd go with the access.
Tide? What's a tide? Man, it's 1000 miles to any ocean.
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B-Roc
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I also vote for depower but not only is your choice a choice between depower and fixed bridle its a choice between a low wind weapon and a moderate to
high wind kite. You really aren't comparing apples to apples with your kite choice.
How much do you weigh and what's your experience level?
Depower Quiver: 14m Gin Eskimo, 10m Gin Eskimo III, 6m Gin Yeti, 4.5m Gin Yeti (custom bridle and mixer)
Fixed Bridle Quiver: MAC Bego 400, JOJO ET Instinct 2.5 & 5.5, Lil Devil 1.5, Sting 1.2
Rides: Ground Industries
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krumly
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AJ -
Sounds like you've flown traction kites before? If not, a 6.5m fixed bridle foil (Method) is too big to learn on - you'll get your butt kicked. If
you start with a fixed bridle foil, a 3m is a good size to learn on, maybe 4m if you are a heavyweight. And a 6m depower foil (Access XT) is too
small for anything but higher winds. If you're 150-200 lbs, you may only find the kite useful for 10-15% of the winter days in MN. Few foil fliers
in MN, but I'd say a 2 kite quiver for depower foils here might be more like an 8 and a 12 m. Or 10 an 14 if you are bigger/more experienced. It'll
depend on kite model, of course.
Where you at in MN? I'm a St. Paul-ite.
krumly
Flying:
1.5 m Ozone LD Stunt
2.2, 3.2, 4.2 m C-Quads
2, 3, 4, 5.5, 7.5m PKD Broozas
9m PL GII, w/ adjustable rear strap mod
Dual mode mod PL GI 13, HArc 6, FArc 12
Cab 5m Convert, 7&9m Xbow, 12m SB
Lots of stunt kites and a Rev Supersonic
Riding:
Libre Special buggy, PL Comp buggy
Line skiboards, & Lib-Tech Park & Pipes
Cabrinha Prodigy kiteboard
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awindofchange
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For snow, depower is usually preferred. Remember though, a 6m Access XT will not have near the power as a 6m Method.
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kiteNH
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Access 8m unless you're a lightweight.
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Seanny
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For snowkiting, I'd say an Access. I had an XC 8m and could hold it down just fine, and I'm 125 pounds. Great kite, very reliable. I wish I could have
mine back.
Cheers,
Seanny
Sean Tully
i like kites.
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AJsnowkiter
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Location: North Branch, Minnesota
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Krumly- Im about 60 miles north of the cities. A little North of North Branch, Minnesota.
Im about 135-140 pounds. Winds where I live are usually about 5-15 mph. Not to strong of winds. I'm definitely a beginner, but I have an Ozone Imp
Trainer 3.5m too. I've flown the crap outta that thing so I know how to fly kites and how the work.;-)
Have:
Cabrinha 11.5m CO2
Cabrinha 19.5m Contra
Ozone Imp Trainer 3.5m
HQ Scout II 5m
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krumly
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Then go depower. Find someone to help set you up for a couple hours. Maybe check with Steve Blaine in Cedar Lake, WI - he is an Ozone sponsored
rider. He teaches snowkite lessons on foils. http://www.mwsk2.com/
Don't know your weight, but still guess an Access 6m would get little use after learning. Not that you wouldn't love to have a storm kite on the few
days you really needed it, but maybe not the most cost effective route if you can only pop for one kite now. 6 m Accesss would be suited for the
winds you can ski behind a 3-4 m fixed foil with, with better gust handling.
krumly
Flying:
1.5 m Ozone LD Stunt
2.2, 3.2, 4.2 m C-Quads
2, 3, 4, 5.5, 7.5m PKD Broozas
9m PL GII, w/ adjustable rear strap mod
Dual mode mod PL GI 13, HArc 6, FArc 12
Cab 5m Convert, 7&9m Xbow, 12m SB
Lots of stunt kites and a Rev Supersonic
Riding:
Libre Special buggy, PL Comp buggy
Line skiboards, & Lib-Tech Park & Pipes
Cabrinha Prodigy kiteboard
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AJsnowkiter
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Posts: 47
Registered: 15-12-2010
Location: North Branch, Minnesota
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Mood: Tired of friends thinking kites are stupid! Until I tell them I have a 20m. That changes things. ;-)
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So are you saying Access or Method?
Have:
Cabrinha 11.5m CO2
Cabrinha 19.5m Contra
Ozone Imp Trainer 3.5m
HQ Scout II 5m
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krumly
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Access, but think about going bigger and get someone to help show you the depower ropes. Method is not a depower kite.
krumly
Flying:
1.5 m Ozone LD Stunt
2.2, 3.2, 4.2 m C-Quads
2, 3, 4, 5.5, 7.5m PKD Broozas
9m PL GII, w/ adjustable rear strap mod
Dual mode mod PL GI 13, HArc 6, FArc 12
Cab 5m Convert, 7&9m Xbow, 12m SB
Lots of stunt kites and a Rev Supersonic
Riding:
Libre Special buggy, PL Comp buggy
Line skiboards, & Lib-Tech Park & Pipes
Cabrinha Prodigy kiteboard
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AJsnowkiter
Junior Member
Posts: 47
Registered: 15-12-2010
Location: North Branch, Minnesota
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Mood: Tired of friends thinking kites are stupid! Until I tell them I have a 20m. That changes things. ;-)
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Oh ok Thanks for the advice Krumly! I'll probably go with the Access then.
Does anybody know where I can find a good deal on an Access XT?
Have:
Cabrinha 11.5m CO2
Cabrinha 19.5m Contra
Ozone Imp Trainer 3.5m
HQ Scout II 5m
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