I've only so far had this kite out in low wind. Around 10mph.

With the bar all the way in or out; it doesn't seem to make much difference. I was expecting a lot more. Maybe it does much more in higher wind?

It was a trip watching that thing back stall the first time I saw it. Now I've seen it numerous times. I won't take it out under 10mph anymore. Too much work just keeping it in the air.

In a gust; it makes my buggy slide sideways across the field.

Should start off by saying I haven't flown the latest Frenzy but I remember a few years back when I flew my HQ Apex 1...I thought the depower felt almost non-existent...but then again, I had been flying Venom 2's and Flysurfers....talk about depower.....

I'd be willing to bet the wind is just too light? For me the depower is not to dump the power necessarily but to adjust the power to absorb gusts or get a bit of a extra jolt. A 7m depower should be your high wind kite. I don't think the Access 10 comes into it's best form until 14mph or so so a & I'd suspect you're looking for a minimum of 15mph?

Don't quote me on this - I don't REALLY know, just making assumptions. Wonder what kind of gusts you were experiencing? Perhaps the kite was just too far back in the powerzone when it hit in which case powering it right up so it flies further out to the edge of the window might help.

methinks you're at the bottom end of the wind range there. My Apex II 7.5m's bottom end is about 8 knots (9mph) and I have to keep it moving - bring it up towards the edge of the window and then downturn it. If it's really light I'll often have to down loop it to stop it stalling. But it's a lot of work.

I've flown last year's 9m Frenzy in 10-15 knots and thought it was pretty good with quite a bit of depower - more so than my Apex's. They won't depower to nothing, maybe 40% - that's a real wild guess!! I did find that the 9m did pull sideways quite a bit - uncomfortably so on a long upwind run. The Manta will sit a bit more forwards in the window and not have the same sideways pull - but it doesn't have the bottom end of the Frenzy either.

My 6.5m Method does much better in light winds than my 7.5m depower - much faster too.

At a guess, I'd be thinking 12-20 knots for a 7m Frenzy. I know my 6m Access XC really needed close to 15 knots to have any usable power. I was always a little disappointed by that.

Actually, I think your 5m Flow would be a better light wind kite.

It takes alot of effort to keep my manta m3 15m up in 6-9 mph winds
but in that range the de power does work really well : )