any one got the above kite just out of interest whats are your thoughts on them are they good for jumps ? no im not considering getting one even though they are a more lifty kite probibly more what im after for little hops but im gonna stick with the hornet 2 3m cos i dont wanna die on my first go with a 4 liner

after you learn with your Hornet II 3m, than you're ready for the Twister IIR 5.6 or the 7.7

Im using mine for free-styling.

To anwer the question: they're very good for jumps. Just don't expect a lot of float from a 4 meter unless you're unusually light. I'm 180 pounds, if i jump a Twister 4.1 (works from 16 knots), i get launched, go "wheeee", and prepare for impact. It pretty much drops me just as hard as i went up. More then enough lift, it's just that this size doesn't have hangtime. I rather jump my 5.6 in less wind. I might not get launched as hard as the 4.1 does, but i do float a bit more.

The 7.7 is fun too. The II was rather slow to steer into the jump, but once it gets you airborn, you stay upthere for a decent while. The IIR should be even better, the reduced bridles should help this beast accelerate faster, thus lifting even more. Should also shave of 1 or 2 knots in the lower end since it has less drag. Haven't flown the IIR in this size yet though, so i can't say if the difference is significant.