BeamerBob
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Credit Card scam
Looks like a foreign credit card scam. I'm toying with him right now to see where it leads. Since I responded, he says he is ordering 10 each of PL
buggies and Flexifoil buggies. (No I'm not a dealer). I told him all I need is his address to give him a total price. We'll see where this goes.
From original email:
Good Morning Sir / Madam
With much respect to your company my name is Mr. Frank Larry and i will like to know if you do carry POWER BUGGIES in stock for sale?
If yes kindly email me back with the type and sizes that you have in stock and the total pick up price of each so that we can proceed with the order..
Moreover i will like to know if you do accept credit cards as a form of payment. Looking forward to hear from you soon with the sizes and price list
of each so that we can proceed with the order.
Kind Regards
Mr. Frank Larry
:smug::smug:
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Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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You're just trying to work that gaslight mojo on me now, aren't you?!? :sniff: :sniff: :sniff:
Fess up, Bob.
ATB,
Sam
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pyro22487
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saw this exact email on another thread here recently. it is a scam as far as we could tell.
go fly a kite trainer 1.4 m
thunderfoil 9 ft.
Flexi sting 1.7m
Ozone flow 2.0 m
PL Vapor 3.2 m
Ozone Flow 5 m
PLVapor 6.5 m
frenzy 14.0 m
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Pulsar
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Also quite obviously the "POWER BUGGIES" part was added into a standard template that could be used for anything.
Me: Dutch Flyboarder ... but not the kind you\'re thinking of.
Power: PL Vibe 1.8 (1.9 mod) - PL Vibe 1.9 - PL Vibe 2.3 - PL Hornet 2.0 - PL Twister 4.1 - PL Twister 5.6
Wind Range: Riding: 11 - 38 knots. Jumping: 12 - 21 knots.
Ride: Trampa (14ply 35deg channels)
Wants: PL Reactor II 6.9 - PL Impulse TR 3.0
Former gear: Libre Dragonboard Sirius - PL Guerilla 13 - Flysurfer Speed I 10 - Ozone Manta II 10
Homemade: PL Vibe 1.8 - Star 6.0 (Depower) - 3 Nasawings - Pixie 1.5 (fun foil) - Flowform 3.0 (slk) - Frog (laundry)
Dilemma: If you work, you have money for kites but no time to fly them. If you don\'t work, you have plenty of time to fly
kites, but no money to buy them. Either way, we\'re all screwed...
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DAKITEZ
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I get emails like this almost on a daily basis ... luckily I have most of them going to the spam folder now
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bigkid
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The deal is real but the CC is stolen and the shipment will most likely go out of the country. Like Dino, I get these a lot, fallowed through with a
few of them and then notified the original CC owner that they were stolen. Some of them got rather nasty by the end of the deal.
Tell the guy you only deal in cash and you won't hear from him again.
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Flexboardz. Blokarts.
PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
North American distributor for PKD.
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BeamerBob
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I figured they would get the shipment and then reverse the charges. Stolen card makes them even more anonymous.
EDIT:
This is the latest. He wants to pick up the merchandise instead of me shipping it. So transparently shady.
Thank you very much for the email responds back well i will like to order 10 Quantities of the Peter Lynn buggy is $549 and another 10 Quantities of
the Flexifoil is $579 Okay so i will like you to email me back with the total pick up price for the 20 Quantities of the buggies so that we can
proceed with the order... Hope to hear from you soon
Kind Regards
Mr Frank Larry
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PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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BeamerBob
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Here's the clincher. This guy wants me to arrange shipping to his "new business" at a University in the Netherlands. He also wants me to pay the
shipping company and charge the shipping charges to his credit card. I'd be out the shipping money, and the merchandise in the end. Still toying
with him.
Here is where he wants them shipped to:
FRANK & CO LLC
NIELS BOHRWEG 11 -11
2333 CA LEIDEN
THE NETHERLANDS
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PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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lol, what a tool... Good eyes Bob!
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HQ: Montana 4 12.5m, Apex 3 5m
Flexi: Blade ViP, Rage 1.8m \"lil Pepi!\"
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BeamerBob
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I'd love to get his real name and send a few of my Dutch friends over for a visit. It might make an impression on him for a few of those fellas to
stop by.
Coastal Wind Sports Team Rider
Landsegler Disc wheels
PTW Hero Buggy - XXtreme ApeXX Buggy US 88 - Libre Hardcore
IvanpahBuggyExpo.com
Youtube link
Bob Muse
HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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pyro22487
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this is as wierd as when i got fake cashiers checks in the mail for a snake i was selling. story goes im selling a granite burmese python for 175. the
guy wants me to sell him the snake for 250 and he would then send me 2 checks for 750 a piece. he would then have some person come and pick the snake
up and that person would transport the snake to newyork. i was suppose to keep 250 and send the rest of the mony from the checks to a p.o. box in
newyork for the live animal transporter. i can ship a snake anywhere in the usa for 50$ to 60$. it just sounded wierd we got the checks and turned
them in to the police. sorry for the veering here.
go fly a kite trainer 1.4 m
thunderfoil 9 ft.
Flexi sting 1.7m
Ozone flow 2.0 m
PL Vapor 3.2 m
Ozone Flow 5 m
PLVapor 6.5 m
frenzy 14.0 m
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Pulsar
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Very strange that someone would ship a fraudulent transaction to the Netherlands. Sounds more of a Nigerian scam, or any other country where you can
get away with anything. If you report this to Dutch authorities, the police downhere would probably take a deep look into it.
Another thing: "11 -11" is not a valid building number. The building in question is quite large and spans 2 house numbers, 11 and 13, so the right
number is 11-13. Who gets their own address wrong? The building is a biochemistry lab that houses multiple small businesses, which obviously all
involve chemistry or biology. Also LLC is not used in Holland, the correct Dutch term would be BV. Strange that that part would be translated.
Me: Dutch Flyboarder ... but not the kind you\'re thinking of.
Power: PL Vibe 1.8 (1.9 mod) - PL Vibe 1.9 - PL Vibe 2.3 - PL Hornet 2.0 - PL Twister 4.1 - PL Twister 5.6
Wind Range: Riding: 11 - 38 knots. Jumping: 12 - 21 knots.
Ride: Trampa (14ply 35deg channels)
Wants: PL Reactor II 6.9 - PL Impulse TR 3.0
Former gear: Libre Dragonboard Sirius - PL Guerilla 13 - Flysurfer Speed I 10 - Ozone Manta II 10
Homemade: PL Vibe 1.8 - Star 6.0 (Depower) - 3 Nasawings - Pixie 1.5 (fun foil) - Flowform 3.0 (slk) - Frog (laundry)
Dilemma: If you work, you have money for kites but no time to fly them. If you don\'t work, you have plenty of time to fly
kites, but no money to buy them. Either way, we\'re all screwed...
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ripsessionkites
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Never got them in the past with RSKB.
Not as famous as ToxicBeaver is. Probably we don't sell enough each year to be on the hit list. Lol.
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BeamerBob
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Thanks for the local insight Pulsar!
Rip, I could easily be VaporBeaver as well! Do you have my new address?
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IvanpahBuggyExpo.com
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Bob Muse
HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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bigkid
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If you get the CC number you can call the CC company and ask if that person is authorized to use the card. I usually get the real persons name of the
CC and then google the address, phone number, or address and then contact them and see if they know if the CC has been stolen. You could be a Hero,
:bigok:
Appex buggy, Libre hardcore buggies.
Flexboardz. Blokarts.
PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
North American distributor for PKD.
"Kite Bugging is not an addiction until you try to quit".
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Bladerunner
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Seems Big Kid has the best reaction.
Get the CC and save the poor owner some grief. Good people need to work a bit harder at making bad peoples lives less easy these days.
:bigok:
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
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ripsessionkites
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VISA and MC both have a validation system. they will tell you if the address matches the card you have.
its the only way to do biz when dealing with a CC transaction.
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DAKITEZ
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1 - 800 - VISA - 750 to check visa card
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I get those just about every day too. I delete them without even thinking about it
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Like everyone said one f the age old scams, ordering quantities of items and they know nothing about what they are ordering and steer the conversation
another direction, fraudulent credit cards, fraudulent cheques - often offering more money than you want and getting a wire transfer of the funds and
you get stuck eventually for all the funds and costs etc.
I had the phone call last night from a guy with an Indian accent sounding like it was a call centre telling me he was calling from Windows Microsoft
to tell me they had info my computer was infected with spyware and viruses etc. I heard about this one a while ago how they get people to type in
commands that bring up what appears to be internal warnings but you end up typing your passwords and giving remote access to your computer. Long story
short I start asking this guy if he can see the problem right now (I'm not even on the computer plus I run Macs) so he says yes. I start pretending
I'm elderly and thank god he called because I was having trouble understanding the computer and I had over 200,000.00 in savings I was worried about
loosing in the computer. He was asking if I was sitting in front of the computer and telling what to type. I told him I don't see what he is telling
me and I keep getting a message. he asked what the message was and I said it says "you are a low life scum sucking scammer that should rot in hell for
trying to rip people off you F'n A_hole stupid moron"
....long pause and he starts whispering you f_off,I'm going to F_ you and then he hangs up on me, the nerve, I had so much more to talk about.
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Peter Lynn Arcs: Charger2 22.5 +18 + 15 + 6.5, Charger I 6, Scorpion 16 + 10, Phantom II 12 + 9, Orig Phantom 9 + 6, Synergy 10 + 8, F 1200, S 840
Ocean Rodeo: Flite 17 + 12, Rise 13 + 10 + 7, Razor 9 + 6
Foils: PL Leopards and Lynx, Airea Raptors, some PL Reactor IIs + IIIs, Libre Spirits, Cross Kite Sonics, Ozone Flow
Peter Lynn Kite Cat for cruising the lakes
buggies: PL XR+, Cameleon Pagona, custom bigfoot, PL Bigfoot, custom ice buggy
Boards: 2 custom directionals, O.R Surf series 6-3 and 5-11, Mako Duke, Mako Skinny, Mako 140 Wide, Mako 150 Wide, Mako King, Brunotti
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BeamerBob
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I have the CC numbers now. The preschool in PA was very shocked and grateful for the information. The Chinese family in Alpharetta GA that has the
other card doesn't have a google trail to find them with. I called the FBI about it but they are busy it seems.
Coastal Wind Sports Team Rider
Landsegler Disc wheels
PTW Hero Buggy - XXtreme ApeXX Buggy US 88 - Libre Hardcore
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Bob Muse
HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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Great work Bob!
Tide? What's a tide? Man, it's 1000 miles to any ocean.
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Send deDutch! Send deDutch! (But make them wear GoPro's and record it all!)
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Drewculous
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Wow! We are quite the connected network lol
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HQ: Montana 4 12.5m, Apex 3 5m
Flexi: Blade ViP, Rage 1.8m \"lil Pepi!\"
FlexiFoot Bug / FlexDeck / MBS Core 95 / Custom Carbon Fiber MTH \"Monster Door\"
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Hello I mr beamerbob I would to purchasing 12 quantities also please...
Ozone Cult 2.5
Ozone Cult 4.5
Rev 1.5
Stainless BloKart with 5.5 sail
NAPKA #41
My Kiting Pics
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I got through on a second try with the FBI. They half heartedly took down the CC info for the GA guy (at my suggestion), and thanked me for letting
the preschool know what was going on in PA. They couldn't or wouldn't do anything since he said a crime had not been committed. Seems pretty bad
that this guy has possession of the stolen CCs and is attempting to use them. Scary. It was fun for awhile but turned out to not be as rewarding as
it could've been. I guess it was worth the hassle to help the preschool out.
Coastal Wind Sports Team Rider
Landsegler Disc wheels
PTW Hero Buggy - XXtreme ApeXX Buggy US 88 - Libre Hardcore
IvanpahBuggyExpo.com
Youtube link
Bob Muse
HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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Vigilanty Bob to the rescue!
It's a shame the way laws are set up to protect criminals but at least you did your bit to help the Pre school!
I would think that if more people responded like this they would at least quit bugging kite people? I'm sure it's a lot of work for shops but just may
be the way to get them off your back?
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
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BeamerBob
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No, you could never beat this the way I did. There are too many of them and too many saps that would let greed and stupidity walk them right into
trouble.
Coastal Wind Sports Team Rider
Landsegler Disc wheels
PTW Hero Buggy - XXtreme ApeXX Buggy US 88 - Libre Hardcore
IvanpahBuggyExpo.com
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Bob Muse
HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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