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[*] posted on 5-10-2011 at 05:36 PM
Trailer for the brave.... Mark II !!


Or foolish.... ah, you never know, it might hold together! Perhaps I should learn how to weld.......











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[*] posted on 5-10-2011 at 05:44 PM


please learn to weld John.... armor up!!!!



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[*] posted on 5-10-2011 at 06:11 PM


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please learn to weld John.... armor up!!!!


LOL! I'll be in the front seat, so providing I've got some speed on, all the exploding bits should be behind me!! I'm reminded of the scene in Pitch Black where they are standing on the ship looking at the trail of debris left behind.....



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[*] posted on 5-10-2011 at 06:38 PM


it will work but break up over time . bumps will get it. it would last a while on smooth stuff, no doubt stay away from pavement.

i had one like that behind a dirt bike when i was 10.



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[*] posted on 5-10-2011 at 06:57 PM


Yeah, I'm intending to keep it on the sand. Probably replace the treated pine with some similar size alloy rhs. Need a beefier hitch too. And the ubiquitous gopro mount....



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[*] posted on 6-10-2011 at 06:48 AM


It takes a special person to work in mutimedia. Get some chrome paint on that thing and let the bragging begin!



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[*] posted on 6-10-2011 at 11:05 PM


OK, didn't like the pine so I replaced it with some box section alloy and some good SS bolts and nylocks. Now it feels like I can jump up and down on it with impunity. Looks a tad better too..













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[*] posted on 7-10-2011 at 05:22 AM


The wheel mounts are still a bit scary:o But looks way safer! Did you put spacers in the boxes where the bolts go through to keep it from squashing?
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[*] posted on 7-10-2011 at 05:47 AM


I would think the wheel brackets would be stronger and more stable if mounted under the axle bar? With any weight on the trailer now it will introduce fairl extreme twisting and sheer force on that bracket. I can see the bracket twist and maybe bolt failure due to forces twisting and shearing at the bolt heads? Mounting underneat puts the force into the base of the braket and puts the load into the bottom of the xale, the bolts woulf only be to hold the plate to the bar, not support the weight..

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[*] posted on 7-10-2011 at 06:22 AM


cooler , for sure you could double the L brackets to make a U and really give the axle end stout up grade...bolt for the tire could go in the open end of the box tube , and thru bolts holding both L brackets with room for axle bolt...

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[*] posted on 7-10-2011 at 06:29 AM


Double L U bracket would be trouble PHREE for sure. Good move on the axle .... shiny is almost allways better.



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[*] posted on 7-10-2011 at 03:11 PM


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Did you put spacers in the boxes where the bolts go through to keep it from squashing? We need video.


I didn't think of that. I have a scaffold/step ladder of the same construction, and yes, the alloy does squash if I tighten the bolts up too much. I was careful not to overtighten and the nylocS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s should stop it coming loose. But some spacers would be easy to add....


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I would think the wheel brackets would be stronger and more stable if mounted under the axle bar? With any weight on the trailer now it will introduce fairl extreme twisting and sheer force on that bracket. I can see the bracket twist and maybe bolt failure due to forces twisting and shearing at the bolt heads?


Good point - something else I had not considered. I'm not worried about the brackets - they are 4-5mm thick and feel very robust. Also, the breaking strength of two 12mm SS bolts would be pretty high - in the order of tons, but continued flexing could still be an issue as could the 20mm nuts working loose. Underneath would have been better. I'll be keeping an eye on it for sure.


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you could double the L brackets to make a U and really give the axle end stout up grade...bolt for the tire could go in the open end of the box tube , and thru bolts holding both L brackets with room for axle bolt...


I had considered this for the bracket that holds the hitch, but as the holes are pre-drilled, they would not line up on either side of the alloy - shorter bolts might fix this but they'd be a bugger to tighten up with the end of the alloy now covered. The best fix would be a post stirrup (a u-bracket as you suggest) - most of the ones I have seen are for 90x90mm posts but I will keep an eye out - if I can find the right size stirrups, it would be better for sure.

Thanks guys, some good ideas there and food for thought. I'll keep an eye on the crushing/twisting stuff and keep some spanners handy.

Hopefully we'll get some good weather down at Sandy Point at the end of the month with plenty of passengers and video to test it out properly.



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[*] posted on 8-10-2011 at 02:37 PM


Awesome, just awesome
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[*] posted on 13-10-2011 at 06:19 PM


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Certainly....

Had to replace my original hitch - nuts came loose and wrecked the thread. Swapped to a 12 eyebolt. Using nylocks on everything apart from the wingnut on top of the hitch bolt - just for convenience and it's easy to keep an eye on.

I put some spacers in the ends of the axle to stop the alloy box section from crushing - thanks for that tip.

Couldn't talk my wife into a ride around the paddock!!! So all that remains to be done now is get it down the beach and get a bum in the seat...... that should be Speed Week at the end of Oct. :spin: Will be nice to have a camera operator in the back too!






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[*] posted on 11-11-2011 at 03:20 AM


Update - had a few passengers down at Sandy Point and it was a hoot. It ran smooth and quiet, even when empty. Mind you, it was a very smooth beach. Even put a friend in the front (her first bit of buggying) and yelled instructions at her from the back seat - it all worked extremely well. Didn't get any video from the trailer (darn it) as circumstances and weather didn't quite line up for the camera...

I reckon I could take it down the beach and charge 20cents a ride!!:smilegrin:







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[*] posted on 11-11-2011 at 09:41 AM


nice. gotta do a lazy boy version. just tie it with a rope right to the frame.

oh and add a seat belt! loving this!



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[*] posted on 11-11-2011 at 11:23 AM


Looks good John!



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[*] posted on 12-11-2011 at 09:53 AM


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I reckon I could take it down the beach and charge 20cents a ride!!:smilegrin:






Here's an idea for your new carreer Todd !

Give them a ride for 20 cents. Take a video and charge $20 !

Almost as good a job as selling beer on our nude beach !

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[*] posted on 12-11-2011 at 12:10 PM


We have been using a piece of side wall from a car tire for the hitch connection. Bolt it to the trailer stem then drill a hole for the hitch bolt.



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