Anyone have one they are willing to part with? I think Ozone quit that size in '05 or '06. I'd maybe even consider an older 15 Manta if the price is right, looking for something to fly in LIGHT winds on snow.

Thanks!

Next generation Montana is going to be available in a 14m ifyou can't find something before that.

Don't understand why kite makers like Ozone and Gin dropped that size from their line up while Flysurfer sells 15 and 19m kites with no problems at all.

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Originally posted by B-Roc Next generation Montana is going to be available in a 14m ifyou can't find something before that. Don't understand why kite makers like Ozone and Gin dropped that size from their line up while Flysurfer sells 15 and 19m kites with no problems at all.

Agree, 14m Gin has been a session saver here.

Not familiar with Gin kites, but from what i've read, i'd certainly be game to try a 14M, sounds like they are great kites

the thing I would like to test would be a older 14m vs the newer 13m or 13m UL frenzy to see if the added performance makes up for the one less meter. It would be a good test to see how technology is progressing.

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Originally posted by DAKITEZ the thing I would like to test would be a older 14m vs the newer 13m or 13m UL frenzy to see if the added performance makes up for the one less meter. It would be a good test to see how technology is progressing.

lighter is always better ... dino vs ricardo, who will be faster?

I had a 14m '06 Frenzy. Bought it brand new and didn't even keep it long enough to ride it on the snow because she was a complete slug. Turn rate was aweful in light winds.

It is not so much a light wind kite as it is a fat kid's kite. In medium winds she was better and man did she glide but I wanted it originally for light winds and at 210 lbs she wasn't gonna do it for me.

Yeah, the older Frenzies are rather slow to turn, I gotta admit that. So, besides flysurfer, who makes a decent reasonably priced light wind kite?

I'm being serious here - so what if it turns slow?
IMO so long as it builds power through the turn, isn't that all that matters? The S3 21 is slow to turn but HOLY JEBUZ!!! the power it makes in a good, slow turn ... my small Xbow whips around like a blow fly on crack but makes nothing in the transition.

I'll take the cable-park-in-a-bag any day ...