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Rib injuries....and Protection?
Been hearing anecdotes about ribs cracking in buggys lately. Dunno if it's from twisting, pressure strain or sudden impact with the side-rails. Maybe
all three?
Either way, I just picked one of these Bike Rib Lite Guards up cheap on eBay. - to wear alone, or go over (or under?) my Rockgardn jacket when I think
I'm going to try something a little more extreme.
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I just wanted to comment on this to any newbies out there ... cracked ribs in a buggy is not the norm. The buggy you are riding is the main factor to
this. If you are in a Peter Lynn or Flexi type buggy the chance of rib damage is very slim to none since there are no high side rails for your ribs to
impact.
I did not want to hijack but I dont want people scared to buggy because they think they will end up with broken ribs :wee:
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Its when your nearly 50 and you send your 10m to early and to fast and your new bigfoots grab and flip your bug impacting your hip into the hardpack
while the interested tourist look on as you pull you top hat and lie in the surfline for the next 5 minutes trying to gracefully recover.
Thats what you have to look out for (Dino said that might happen) :wee:
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Dino is totaly rite on this. Although things happen. Last fall I crashed hard and bruised my ribs and kidney. I came home and ordered impact
protection. Arms,shoulders,chest,back,ribs and kidney belt all in a comfortable jacket. And under $100.00
BTW it is hard to hurt ribs in a buggy. It's when you come out at speed and try to brace yourself as you impact. You land on your side with your arm
under you. CRACK POP it's done. I learned to wear lots of gear, and if I'm getting OBE'd I hold onto the kite to keep my arms out and try to land on
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Dino is right . Rib injuries aren't all that likely from lower side rails. The potential is greater in the newer buggies with the higher rails but
still not extremely common.
I have had repeated dislocation of my rib so it pops all too easy. I managed to do it with almost no effort the 1st time I rode in an Ivanpah. It was
Monty's x Ozzy's so not sized proper for me. I simply leaned too hard against the rail holding down kite power. I suppose there is a lesson in that?
Both Big Kid and Coolbreeze injured there ribs in an OBE . Coolbreeze did his in at least once by landing on his back wheel. My injury shouldn't count
as it is more a trick rib issue than something goe wrong.
That said, This looks like a pretty good idea if you do have concerns about your ribs. It should stay clear of your harness.
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Hmmmm...
* "nearly 50?" -CHECK (and then some!)
* "10m?" -CHECK (does 8.3m and 12m count?)
* "New Bigfoots?" - CHECK (well, newish looking Bigfoots)
* ...health insurance? - Nope...not for now...hence padding for anything other than sand?
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I noticed that the Quebec crews impression of U.S. riders is that they wear a lot of pads .
I'm not so sure this is a bad thing ?
I know that I get courage I have lost to age when I feel I'm properly padded !
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bladerunner
I noticed that the Quebec crews impression of U.S. riders is that they wear a lot of pads .
I'm not so sure this is a bad thing ?
I know that I get courage I have lost to age when I feel I'm properly padded ! |
That is because we don't have socialized health care. You get hurt here ,and you feel it alot more in your wallet. And don't go to an emergency
room ! OMG You might as well walk in backwards w/ your butt hanging out.
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Don't know if Dino has any say in the mater if he doesn't buggy much:D But he is right in the fact that the siderails are to low to do any damage so
we hope.
It has been talked about by more than a few people about rib protection lately. It would take both hands to count the people that have broken ribs in
and out of the buggy in the last year, not counting myself. OBE's and siderails are a big factor, but you can do it by falling over laughing your #*^
off.
Don't loose sleep over the broken rib thing and the helmet is in the same group. I have my own personal belief in the importance of both and no matter
what happens to anyone else, I wear a rib protector and could care less about the helmet, but I wear one.
A rib protector would not have helped me much in my accident and the full face helmet is what did the worst of the damage to my chest. But to
eliminate the possibilities of another rib problem, I will enjoy the Rib-teck I have.
I hope nobody has to go through a broken rib or 19, but if you haven't, you ain't got much to say on the matter. :dunno:
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Interesting about the full faced helmet dangers.
I really don't want to vanquish 40 years of expensive dental work. :D
But I never considered the chest element - tho my flak jacket, which I rarely wear, has chest protection.
A neck-nut / collar would could also prevent that (as well as head-longs, whiplash and torques).
Looking over protective stuff, it seems like the go-kart armor would probably most match buggy rider needs?
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Bigkid ... Rocfighter ... can you put up some links to your safety gear so we all can have a look??
- some kites
- NAPKA KC97 - BMK Frankenbuggy
- Hand me down snowboard gear from my kid
- wife burned wallet ... LOL
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Mostly I'm on sand in a T shirt and jeans, probably should be thinking about at least a helmet, I figure mostly if I hit the sand and the safety at
the same time, couldnt be that bad. But then again you can fall over a single step and get real hurt. Health insurance?
I forgot what that was. Oh yeah its for the kids and the Mrs. I try as as it is just not ever to go to the doctor.:roll:
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I wonder if a leatt brace would be the answer.
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this is what I wear,
http://www.ribtect.com/RibtectVest_Two.html
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Quote: | Originally posted by apextech
Mostly I'm on sand in a T shirt and jeans, probably should be thinking about at least a helmet, I figure mostly if I hit the sand and the safety at
the same time, couldnt be that bad. But then again you can fall over a single step and get real hurt. Health insurance?
I forgot what that was. Oh yeah its for the kids and the Mrs. I try as as it is just not ever to go to the doctor.:roll: |
I destroyed my shoulder and spnt 6 months out of work ,flipped a buggy on sand here it is on video
http://vimeo.com/16678110
I flip over at the end. So I know firsthand that sand can and WILL hurt you. With sufficient force that is.
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I have 2 of these also. They cost a little more than the rib tect,
http://www.acuteinnovations.com/Products/RibLoc
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Originally posted by Weldngod
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I destroyed my shoulder and spent 6 months out of work |
Again I should be thinking about this more for that very reason, BTW what was that evil looking speed kite you had there?
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OK after all this discussion, I dug out my MC flack jacket from years ago (fits under a conventional jacket) so I'm covered for ribs, back shoulders ,
elbows and forearms, I guess the helmet will come out of mothballs as well. Here it one like mine
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sz-3-BODY-GUARD-SOFT-LINE-Motorcyc...
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GOOD MAN! I wear a Rockgarden flak jacket,it cost around 80 bucks I
think.
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"Good Man?"
That's a jacket for a chick!
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Quote: | Originally posted by bigkid
I hope nobody has to go through a broken rib or 19, but if you haven't, you ain't got much to say on the matter. :dunno:
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Originally posted by lad
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"Good Man?" That's a jacket for a chick! |
Well I really dont know what to say, I personally am quite comfortable in my choice of chic and stylish undergarment, I do find it strange however
that I'm 185# and the same size as hers, its meant to be worn under leathers without armor, I can only imagine it would have a kind of flattening
effect when fitted on a woman with the chest plates and all.:P
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i have started wearing an impact vest on the water for about 3months now and it definitely helps.
committing to "one more item" on the set up is worth it. esp. when your tired and you get whacked.
having your ride crack you in the back is not what you want ..pad up , play on !
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Sorry I have no idea how to link things in. But the place I get my gear is Xsports protective.com ( www.XSportsProtective.com) is the web site. I am not sure what brand I have. I would need to go out to my gear and look. And it is dark and
raining really hard and I am a wimp
But if it helps I think Rich from ECKS has the same body gear.
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Hey I did it by accident!!
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