I have a brand new EH Orvando 7m that I bought for my wife and has never been used. (I have a 9m for high wind for myself) Trade includes the kite, 45 cm bar, lines and bag and shipping. It was inflated, inspected and then packed back up.

I would like a larger foil kite for winter kiting. Anything larger than 12 m is ok such as a Peter Lynn or Montana.

It is a brand new 7 meter 2011 EH Ovando kite (made late 2010 for 2011 year). Comes complete with bar and bag. This is a rare and amazing kite with extremely good upwind performance. Notes from EH's website: The Ovando does not behave like any kite you have ever tried, it has a extremely efficient airfoil and truly combines the C shape turning speed with the power of a Ultra Flat. This kite mimic’s a real wing and it fly’s stable and is easily water re launchable. It has a deep efficient profile to get maximum lift at low wind speeds. Most its usable surface is generating lift. The tips on the Ovando are purposely kept small, thin and low drag. The surface is just large enough to stabilize the kite in flight, turn it and help it re launch from the water. The kite is to be able to achieve smooth power control with a short de power travel. The Ovando de-power is very good but do not expect bow type de power. It's short 25 cm de power travel 25 cm allows you to ride with a more natural body position and gives you full control over the kite's power all within arms reach.

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check out my 13 Scorp in the post above this one

I need some help here folks. It appears the Scorpion is a twin foil kite and needs to be blown up?
While I see the advantage of this if you used the twin foil on the water - it would float, I also see this as a potential PITA on the snow when it is below zero and blowing. What about snow getting inside the two foils? What is the power range of this 13m Scorpion? I also like the idea of it just sitting at 12 o'clock when eating lunch. Does it take hits on the ice if I fall or is a Montana or Frenzy the way to go? I am also a large guy e.g. 130 kg
Any feedback would be appreciated.

The Scorpion is an arc, closed cell foil, high aspect, high lift, works great on water, snow and land. I use it for snowkiting and atb. It is very smooth and easy to fly but does take at least 15mph at the bottom end. You do need to pre inflate the kite but not with a pump, it inflates itself. Montanas and Frenzies don't compare as they are a different breed , the arcs are more c-kite like, much smoother power but not as much power size for size,for a big guy this kite would be a good high wind weapon. Did I mention the kite is pristine and Beamer Bob has the perfect bar for this kite

If you come out this winter over to Luther Marsh (just past Orangeville) we use a lot of Peter Lynn Twinskins in the winter. If you are sticking to Kampenfelt Bay or down to Keswick you won't see any arcs there, a few at keswick. You'll see more Frenzy's etc of the open cell de-power foils. I love my twinskins in the winter, extremely versatile but I would caution that you should come out and get some experience on setting up and flying this style of kite as you are coming off only LEI and the Hydra experience. I have my 16 and 10 Scorpion I still use and there are a few 13's in the area - the Scorpions can be twitchy at times launching in our crap winter gusty conditions so experience will help smooth the learning curve.
Here's just one video from Luther a couple of years ago last day of the season you can see the number of Arc fliers out:
http://vimeo.com/17754001
Mark

Oh yeah the Scorpions work really good on the snow........this is me in light winds on my old 16m.

I have a 12 slingshot Snow ranger I would consider trading. It is from 2007 but it has only seen 5 or 6 sessions. Not new but very close!

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Originally posted by markiteHere's just one video from Luther a couple of years ago last day of the season you can see the number of Arc fliers out: http://vimeo.com/17754001 Mark

Great ARC video! It is cool seeing the Charger, Synergy, and Venom in the same video flying next to each other. It gives a good sense of their different proportions and flying.

Thanks for the offers G-Force Junkie and 43 Patrick.

They are not quite what I was looking for.

This is a great light wind kite.
See this thread in a Australia forum. Briz kites half way down.
The EH's are great light wind kites.

http://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Light...


Someone is missing an opportunity here...IMO

Thanks for all the input so far.
After reading all forum on the arc kites and models i have decided now what it is i am looking for.
I want a kite that does the auto zenith. The kite must be from 15 m to 19 m and include a bar.
The later 15m Chargers to the older Venom II I think is the target.
I want this kite for primarily snow kiting but also can use it on the water.
I need to haul my 130 kg (285 lbs) across the ice.:eureka:

Hey, I'm not looking to trade, but I do have a 19m Venom II posted for sale if you're interested. I already sold the bar, but if you can track one down maybe this would be an option for you. Here's the post if you want to check it out...

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=19567

We can work something out on the shipping since you're in Canada, if you're interested that is.