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[*] posted on 18-2-2012 at 07:41 PM


I seriously doubt you'll be able to blow a kite with a hand/foot pump unless the bladder is already borked... like in the video, it should stand on a tip without distorting or easier to check while you're pumping: flick with a nail it should ping... or try and bend it with your hands.
You can buy little pressure gauges from Slingshot et al and I reckon 8psi is a good place to start. Only works on regular valves though...

Kite lifting at 11 to 1 is normal and why we keep it lower :)

You might need to check out some video's on trimming the kite... anyway, 6 knots is SFA to be using a kite in and probably below its design limitation. My big Xbow has "from 6 knots..." on its wind range chart but it'll barely stay in the sky and is no use until 12 knots plus.



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[*] posted on 18-2-2012 at 08:55 PM


Yea, like kami said, it looks like it's just too light at times for the kite to be flying. Your doing great. Just remember that the way you are launching is ok for the super light wind you are flying in, but don't try that "hot" launch in real wind! Especially with your C kite. Also just note that because your flying in such light wind, you are throwing the kite straight down wind through the power zone. As you fly in higher wind have respect for the power zone!
As I watch you playing with your kite in the desert, I can't help but to wait for your next post:
"Please help with leaking inflatable kite" :puzzled:
Keep it up bro, your doing great!
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[*] posted on 18-2-2012 at 09:45 PM


Thanks Zero, that actually give me a lot better idea of how it should be.

Kami, I've been reading up and watching a lot of videos trimming, its just taking time to get used to it then change be the settings and seeing how it reacts differently. Doesn't help when the winds are changing constantly.

Surprisingly it has been windy (again, for us that's 8+ knots) here almost every other day. So I've been out there everyday working the 6 knot winds. And when I say 6 knots that's with it gusting u to 10. But on the days it's a steady 10+ knots, I have a blast. Kicks my ass tho. Actually hurt my knee coming down off one of those little jumps, so im sitting out the next couple of days. But looking to hit the lake this week or next!

Flyfish, I know not to fly it through the power zone when winds are high. Honestly, when its blowing 12 knots, that's pretty intimidating and self launching is trick but do able. Only time I feel out of control is when the kite is right above me and I can't reach the ground. Othwise I wont be flying in winds higher than 12 knots.
I haven't even tried the C kite. And as for the hole in the kite....im doing my best to prevent that by keeping it airborne.



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[*] posted on 19-2-2012 at 02:17 AM


It's great to know your kite before you get onto the water, but don't forget, water is a completely different medium. Kite flight on a board on the water is similar to static land based flight, but it is a completely different experience. You need more power for water flight than land flight so you're kite should feel pretty powered up when you launch. There shouldn't be any feeling of instability or inconsistent behavior. When the wind picks up to a proper level and the kite is in tune the result is a kite that is eager to fly with gobs of power when you're on the shore. You say your water is a lake right? I've never had a big kite up in suitable kitesurfing winds on a grassy/dirty area. Fortunately, it's always been sand. Having flown my little kites at the park in decent winds and my kitesurfing kites in marginal at best winds, I wouldn't want to be flying the big kite in the grass for very long. In other words, get to the water immediately after launch.

Once you figure the kites out and become comfortable with the massive available power on tap (and I mean MASSIVE) it won't be critical to get the kite to the water immediately although it's still important not to waste time. But until then it's best to get in the water and away from shore a little bit. I kite at the beach and never come inside the break. We have a mushy east coast shore break that's pretty close to the beach but that still puts me 10 or more line lengths from the shore and I try to keep a couple line length distance between the kite and the surfers in the surf zone.

NEVER FORGET Flyfish's words, "As you fly in higher wind have respect for the power zone!" Truer words you will not often hear.



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[*] posted on 19-2-2012 at 09:22 AM


Keep it low and GO !

Don't leave the kite up there at 1 - 11 when well powered. I gust will lift you before you know what has happened. Keeping the kite low helps keep you earthbound in those bursts.

That kite is designed for motion. Time to get moving !

Go to www.kitesurfingschool.org and such to figure out the " SELF RESCUE " as soon as you get out on the water.
Also search proper body position to drag upwind with and without your board. LOTS to do before attempting board starts in water yet !



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[*] posted on 19-2-2012 at 11:07 AM


clintopher - I've been flying on hard grass and dirt with this kite from no wind (only on gusts) to a steady 12 knots with gusts to 15 knots. Definitely feels like I am fighting a bull when its above 8 knots. When it has been a steady 12 knots I dont even fly it through the powerzone due to the amount of power there. I believe that with my weight(160lbs), kite size(15m) and a large board (150cmx44cm) I should be able to get up and go on the water with at least 10 knots. I'll find out soon enough but the way she pulls in light winds, I dont see an issue with her pulling me on water but I could be wrong.

Last friday I went out between 5:30-6:30 and you can see the wind conditions. Thats about the hardest it has blown here starting this year - 15 knots. At the lake it was 20 knots for about an hour.

Blade- I'll avoid flying it straight up and keep it parked lower. Ive watch the Progession Dvd a couple times now, prepping myself for the water. Just gotta find a warmish day with some enough wind. This Thursday it is predicted 78* and 7 knots.....hoping for more wind tho!

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[*] posted on 19-2-2012 at 05:37 PM


Regarding temps... depending on your gear (wetsuit etc) you might be surprised - as I've said, I've been out here in 4'C and while I was cold, I wasn't in danger of hypothermia or even impaired function :)
Other days in NZ, I was shivering in the wind chill but (here's the important thing) once I was in/on the water and doing the kiteboarding, the effort of all that work kept me warm.

Well, warm enough :lol:



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