shaggs2riches
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does ice go bad????
Wanting to go for a session early in the morning, at the lake. Just wondering though if anyone can explain ice in dry conditions and very little
coverage. Many of the days in the past few weeks have been around or above freezing, with well below that in the nights. Last weekend was -20c and
colder for four days, and all this week except today its been around -8 to -15c. I've been told that they are still ice fishing at all the big lakes
with well over 2feet of ice. The lake I'm planning on going to is an Alkaline lake. I know that in a normal winter the ice is rock solid as many
people snowmobile on it and I've kited on it a bunch of times. It is quite small, and fairly shallow able to walk out almost halfway and be in only
4-5 feet of water. I only am asking because of our unusual winter and have no tools for measuring the thickness of the ice. My father was warning me
that the ice could be rotten, but he couldn't confirm it. If this was a normal lake I'd have no issues. Tomorrow morning might be the only time I get
to snowkite as its warming this week and forecast to be +8c all next weekend and the following week. Sorry for the long post I didn't mean to write it
this long.
what I fly/ride:
19m Flysurfer Speed 2 SA
12m Flysurfer Speed2
6m Ozone access xt
1.5m Ozone imp trainer
144cm Airush Switch
152cm lib tech skate banana
MBS Pro 90
Jereme Leafe Pro 95
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shaggs2riches
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Never mind searched around and found some info. I think I should try for a freshwater lake about the same distance the other direction just to be
sure. Gonna check a couple fields in the area first thing in the morning first. Never new just how complex ice can be. The Alkaline makes it
worse.:shocked2:
what I fly/ride:
19m Flysurfer Speed 2 SA
12m Flysurfer Speed2
6m Ozone access xt
1.5m Ozone imp trainer
144cm Airush Switch
152cm lib tech skate banana
MBS Pro 90
Jereme Leafe Pro 95
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markite
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Also depends on any organic matter that might mix with ice - algae and weeds/reeds mixed with ice tends to warm quicker and anything mixed in ice like
dirt and grit attract heat causing pitting and pockets and then candlestick ice which Feyd and and a few friends ran into a couple of years back. The
internal structure deteriorates creating columns of ice and unstable that can collapse without much warning other than some movement and a tinkling
sound like wind chimes.
Drill holes, check ice thickness and consistency - be safe, prepare a self rescue plan just in case.
Mark Groshens NAPKA KC 13
WindSpeed kites & design - Canada
Peter Lynn Arcs: Charger2 22.5 +18 + 15 + 6.5, Charger I 6, Scorpion 16 + 10, Phantom II 12 + 9, Orig Phantom 9 + 6, Synergy 10 + 8, F 1200, S 840
Ocean Rodeo: Flite 17 + 12, Rise 13 + 10 + 7, Razor 9 + 6
Foils: PL Leopards and Lynx, Airea Raptors, some PL Reactor IIs + IIIs, Libre Spirits, Cross Kite Sonics, Ozone Flow
Peter Lynn Kite Cat for cruising the lakes
buggies: PL XR+, Cameleon Pagona, custom bigfoot, PL Bigfoot, custom ice buggy
Boards: 2 custom directionals, O.R Surf series 6-3 and 5-11, Mako Duke, Mako Skinny, Mako 140 Wide, Mako 150 Wide, Mako King, Brunotti
lots of old school skis, snowboard
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rocfighter
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Sure ever go to some ones house and get some ice from there freezer for your icetea and have it taste like fish or worse?:o:wow::eekdrull:
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PL Guerilla 13, 18
PL C-Quad 2.3, 3.2, 4.2
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Libre V Max on barrow Plus wider taller sand tires & bigfoot front end
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skimtwashington
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No tools?
I test the ice with small hand axe and chop holes.... make test holes throughout different areas as I go along like a recon.
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canuck
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Hope you got out for a session...
FB: Pro Foil 5.5m, PL Reactor II 3.5m, Radsail 3m
Depower: GIN Shaman 12m & 6m, Shaman2 9m (incoming), PL Venom II 13m, Venom I 10m
HQ Powerkites seat harness
Salomon snowblade 90, straight & shaped skis
PL Comp ST buggy, MBS Comp 16 Pro, Coyote All Terrain Rollerblades
BodyGlove wakeskis
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shaggs2riches
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Location: Lloydminster, Saskatchewan, Canada
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No I went out early this morning around 7. Winds were good so I set up when I was grabbing my helmet, I checked and it had dropped to 12km. Stayed
that way for 15 minutes. Decided to pack up and go home. Two hours later it was back around 25km and stayed that way for the rest of the day. By then
I had made plans to hang with my kids all day at the pool. This got me thinking of getting an ice auger though.
what I fly/ride:
19m Flysurfer Speed 2 SA
12m Flysurfer Speed2
6m Ozone access xt
1.5m Ozone imp trainer
144cm Airush Switch
152cm lib tech skate banana
MBS Pro 90
Jereme Leafe Pro 95
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Feyd
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Get yourself an 8" ice screw. Handy for finding ice thickness and pretty important tool if you're riding ice.
Just screw it in, if you stop feeling resistance you've hit water. Make note of how much screw is exposed and subtract that from it's total length
and you have a good idea of the ice thickness.
And if things go bad out in the middle of nowhere and you need an emergency anchor you have one.;-)
Chris Krug-Owner @ Hardwater Kiting. Authorized Dealer of Ozone, Flysurfer, HQ kites.
www.hardwaterkiter.com 603-986-2784
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