I want to put an eye splice in a 3/16 (5mm) Amsteel line and am having trouble. The smallest fid Samson makes is 1/4". They said it would work but I
tried and it is too big. What do you use? Same question for 1/8" Amsteel. Thanks. Also the Samson instructions that came with the fid kit I got
are crap.
Originally posted by BeamerBob
I think I've seen videos where guys used looped piano wire fed through from end of splice to beginning.
I use this method for making line sets.
I do the 1/8 blue amsteel splice loops with a Yale Wire Basket Fid. I found this when doing electrical work on custom made lamps. a bit easier to get
the material started. big key is to push the outside material together like the wire basket thing to make room for the inside to slide through.
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A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
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Instead of pushing with the fid, I just tried pulling it through with a wire. Worked better. That yale wire basket fid looks nice. I need to
practice more. I found a good video splicing 4mm. He makes it look easy and his fids are nicer than the Samson ones. Looks like it is a stainless
tube with a taper.
I use a folded guitar string as a puller fid. They cost around $0.60 to buy and make. $2.00 if you attach them to a steel ring to help with the
pulling. I have one that is about 6" long and the other about 1.5'. They work very well with amsteel and especially well with 300-600# line. I use
the same locking brummel splice as he does in the video with the exception of the fact that you pull with a wire fid where he pushes with a solid fid.
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instead of the lock stitch, he did the double through the line then went down the center. not sure of the decrease of strength at those points.
Appex buggy, Libre hardcore buggies.
Flexboardz. Blokarts.
PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
North American distributor for PKD.
"Kite Bugging is not an addiction until you try to quit".
Appex buggy, Libre hardcore buggies.
Flexboardz. Blokarts.
PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
North American distributor for PKD.
"Kite Bugging is not an addiction until you try to quit".
I don't stitch with the a double brummel. You could but the double pass through locks it in place. I do not think there is any decrease in stregth
since you are only creating 2 bends and no knots but I'm not 100% sure.
You also don't have to lock stitch with the zacher knot which is nice because it allows for adjustment for shinkage but doesn't slip under load.
Depower Quiver: 14m Gin Eskimo, 10m Gin Eskimo III, 6m Gin Yeti, 4.5m Gin Yeti (custom bridle and mixer)
Fixed Bridle Quiver: MAC Bego 400, JOJO ET Instinct 2.5 & 5.5, Lil Devil 1.5, Sting 1.2
Rides: Ground Industries
I cut and shape a small piece of carbon rod, then tape that on the end of the amsteel and insert through the amsteel. The size of the carbon rode is
dependent on the size of the amsteel, and the length of the carbon rod is dependent on how small my loop will be.
Originally posted by B-Roc
I do not think there is any decrease in stregth since you are only creating 2 bends and no knots but I'm not 100% sure.
I agree, the Amsteal is rated far beyond what most of us need, unless you are lifting the house with the truck.:shocked2:
Appex buggy, Libre hardcore buggies.
Flexboardz. Blokarts.
PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
North American distributor for PKD.
"Kite Bugging is not an addiction until you try to quit".
Originally posted by bigkid
What are you using the spliced amsteal for?
Depower line for a 3:1 race bar with 2 pulleys. Also will be replacing the standard bridal pulleys with Ronstan Series 20 Orbit blocks. I will use
the 1/8th for lashing and pigtails. I thought I could use the 20's for the bar but the 5mm line is too big to act as lashing for the pulley. I am
going to order some 30's instead.
FWIW, I bough the Samson to work splices in double braid on my sailboat. Don't bother with it for singlebraid splices. Go with the music wire loop
fid shown in my pics. I prefer a brummel splice - link to that is in the thread as well.
krumly
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2.2, 3.2, 4.2 m C-Quads
2, 3, 4, 5.5, 7.5m PKD Broozas
9m PL GII, w/ adjustable rear strap mod
Dual mode mod PL GI 13, HArc 6, FArc 12
Cab 5m Convert, 7&9m Xbow, 12m SB
Lots of stunt kites and a Rev Supersonic
Riding:
Libre Special buggy, PL Comp buggy
Line skiboards, & Lib-Tech Park & Pipes
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And FWIW, I've made music wire fids for use on 80 lb test single braid spectra fishing line all the way to 1/4" Amsteel. The former is a real
exercise in patience.
krumly
Flying:
1.5 m Ozone LD Stunt
2.2, 3.2, 4.2 m C-Quads
2, 3, 4, 5.5, 7.5m PKD Broozas
9m PL GII, w/ adjustable rear strap mod
Dual mode mod PL GI 13, HArc 6, FArc 12
Cab 5m Convert, 7&9m Xbow, 12m SB
Lots of stunt kites and a Rev Supersonic
Riding:
Libre Special buggy, PL Comp buggy
Line skiboards, & Lib-Tech Park & Pipes
Cabrinha Prodigy kiteboard
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