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snow buggy?
I was in McCall Idaho helping my wife with her booth in the Winter Festival and this was my view. this is Payette Lake, it is froze over with around 6
in. of snow on it. my question is what is the best way to outfit a buggy for this type of condition? skis? blades? spikes? what works and what
doesn't?
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The boys at Apexx have a pretty sweet setup. PKF member on sabbatical "kteguru" has another successful setup , search his old posts for pics. I think
the Apexx crew is the closest to having a tricycle setup work well under variable conditions. The wide snowboards have an advantage over the
snowmobile skis and if their skeg/blade were easily adjustable for raising up and down no doubt their rig would work well in all conditions. The
alternative is to go with a two ski tilt on edge setup , and that's a completely different animal. I've seen barrow tires run on bare ice that had
some texture to it. An inch of snow that has bonded to the ice you can run tires on. I've always figured that studded tires of some sort would be a
cheap easy solution in most places but I haven't gotten around to that experiment.
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3 "snowspider" homebuilt kite sleds
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MDK
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interesting, I thought that snowmobile skis would give you more bite for side load than a wider ski or snowboard. this is why I need to seek out the
experienced, thanks I will search that info!
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In deeper snow the snowmobile ski sinks in more, creating tilt and drag, thats the difference. They both run with a sharp skeg/blade that handles the
side pull (and the ice) so are pretty equal there. Original snowmobile skegs are not what you want , kteguru had special stainless blades mounted to
the bottom or thru his snowmobile skis , ran well on ice and would skip over drifting snow easily. Soft deep snow is where the tricycle set up has
difficulty and a big fat slippery board acting like an out-rigger is where the answer is.
2.6 , 3.9 , 5.3 , 6.8 PL Vipers
5 , 7.5 HQ Apex II
14m HQ Montana VII
5m naish element
7m ss turbo diesel
10m pansh blaze
5m beamer dearly departed into a tree
3 "snowspider" homebuilt kite sleds
3 homebuilt buggies
1 skate board with seat on wheels or blades (the c0ckroach)
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MDK
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yep I found a video someone using snowmobile skis and I can now see the issue. I will try and find the stuff Apexx was doing and see if I want to go
that route. I may just learn to ski
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If you can roller blade or skate you will pick up skiing easily. Even if you don't , skiing is the easiest of all the "go fast with a kite" things you
can do.
2.6 , 3.9 , 5.3 , 6.8 PL Vipers
5 , 7.5 HQ Apex II
14m HQ Montana VII
5m naish element
7m ss turbo diesel
10m pansh blaze
5m beamer dearly departed into a tree
3 "snowspider" homebuilt kite sleds
3 homebuilt buggies
1 skate board with seat on wheels or blades (the c0ckroach)
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MDK
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yes Apexx has the best thing going http://www.snowbuggy.nl/technology.php looks expensive though........... the only skiing I have done is water ski. + the 15 years of framing have
not been kind to my knees but I may suck it up and give it a try some time. I bet the guys at the ski shop in McCall don't have a kite
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Kitegru's snow buggy
Here...
US888
PL- Aero v1 11m / Phantom 6/9/12/15/18
Ozone Chrono v2 9m
Liquid Force Elite 6.5m
Flysurfer - Peak 3 4m
PKD - Century 2.5m, Soulfly 3.5m
Ted's Profoil-1m/3.5m
Custom NABX Rev
GT Rapide V/VTT-XR+ Special
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One more
US888
PL- Aero v1 11m / Phantom 6/9/12/15/18
Ozone Chrono v2 9m
Liquid Force Elite 6.5m
Flysurfer - Peak 3 4m
PKD - Century 2.5m, Soulfly 3.5m
Ted's Profoil-1m/3.5m
Custom NABX Rev
GT Rapide V/VTT-XR+ Special
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Do get on skis
...skiing with a kite requires a bit less overall ski skill than going down a hill...but you should still have the basics down first
perhaps(lesson(s)).
Turning, braking getting on edge/angulating as such...
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I find snowkite to feel very similar to 2 ski water skiing at times. If you have done that you have a decent background to give it a try. Start on
short skis.
I also think that studs would be a chaep way to go and that it just may work?
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
Ken (K2)
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I didn't know the Apexx team used flexible skates under the boards I thought somewhere else I saw a much shorter solid skate. I wonder how they deal
with ice.
2.6 , 3.9 , 5.3 , 6.8 PL Vipers
5 , 7.5 HQ Apex II
14m HQ Montana VII
5m naish element
7m ss turbo diesel
10m pansh blaze
5m beamer dearly departed into a tree
3 "snowspider" homebuilt kite sleds
3 homebuilt buggies
1 skate board with seat on wheels or blades (the c0ckroach)
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