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PL Vapor 7.8 replacement - What should I get?
So I'm thinking of getting another kite to replace my beloved Vapor 7.8. It's still in really good shape and probably has a few years left but I guess
I'm just looking to mix things up a little bit and keep it fresh. Here's what I was thinking:
1. Ozone Yakuza GT
2. Wait for Ozone's new race kite (don't know the name)
3. Combat
4. Century 2
5. HQ Prodigy
6. Reactor III (aka 2013)
If you were me, what would you get? And if you have ridden any of these, I would love to hear your opinion.
Thanks.
Flexifoil Blurr 2.5, Ozone Cult 3.5, Nasa Star 3 4.0 Ozone Yakuza 4.0, PL Reactor 4.9, JoJo RM+ 5.0, Ozone Method 5.0, Ozone Yakuza 6.0, Flexifoil
Blade IV 6.5, Nasa Star 3 7.0, PL Vapor 7.8, JoJo RX 8.0 (in route), Flexifoil Blade VIP 8.5, PL Vapor 9.4, Ozone Yakuza 10.0, PL Reactor II 10.8, PL
Vapor 16.1, PL Venom II 13, PL Charger 15, 19, Flysurfer Unity 12, Flysurfer Pulse 2 14, Flysurfer Speed 2 SA 19, Flysurfer Speed 3 21, MBS Comp 95
landboard, PL Folding buggy, PL XR+ buggy, Slingshot LFT, Lots of surfboards
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You just want a new toy! No need to justify it.
Keep the vapor and buy some surfing kites - that will mix it up for you :D
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Last year I started looking for something with a bit more performance. My JoJo rm+'s are great kites and hold there own quite well, but after flying
those for a number of years I couldn't help but think that there is something better out there. So I started looking around. What I ended up with,
to my surprise was actually a model that was as dated as my rm+'s. The PKD Combats. For me, they out perform the rm+'s just enough to make a
difference. A wise and well respected buggier once told me how it's the little things added together that make a big difference. They aren't for
everybody because you do have to fly them. For those that prefer to just park their kite and cruise, I would suggest the Century II's. Close to the
performance and yet very stable. I truly believe the Century II's to be the best compromise of performance and stability out there. But if you are
wanting that little extra more, Combats.
If it's a used kite you are looking for, I do have a few rm+'s available (5,6,7,8)
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These Opals are about the coolest kite I have seen in a long time.
It's time somebody tried on over here ?
http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=25894
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Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
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Keep the vapor and buy some surfing kites
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Funny you should mention that...got my eye on the CH2's
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These Opals are about the coolest kite I have seen in a long time.
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Gotta agree...they look pretty damn cool. Don't know how I missed that post. Wonder how they fly...
@sunset-jim - Appreciate your feedback on the Combats. I remember flying the 6m (I think it was) from Pablo back in the day when he did the 'pass the
kite'. Unfortunately and I can't remember why (probably lack of wind and time), I only got to static fly it. I remember really liking it and always
having the urge to try it again in the buggy.
Flexifoil Blurr 2.5, Ozone Cult 3.5, Nasa Star 3 4.0 Ozone Yakuza 4.0, PL Reactor 4.9, JoJo RM+ 5.0, Ozone Method 5.0, Ozone Yakuza 6.0, Flexifoil
Blade IV 6.5, Nasa Star 3 7.0, PL Vapor 7.8, JoJo RX 8.0 (in route), Flexifoil Blade VIP 8.5, PL Vapor 9.4, Ozone Yakuza 10.0, PL Reactor II 10.8, PL
Vapor 16.1, PL Venom II 13, PL Charger 15, 19, Flysurfer Unity 12, Flysurfer Pulse 2 14, Flysurfer Speed 2 SA 19, Flysurfer Speed 3 21, MBS Comp 95
landboard, PL Folding buggy, PL XR+ buggy, Slingshot LFT, Lots of surfboards
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I'm seriously considering some reactors to supplement vapors in the smaller sizes for when the wind quality is lower than I want to fly vapors in.
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Hmmmmnnnn....
Okay just for the heck of it... What about a comparison between the Century II and the Reactor II(or the new III)....?
Factors:
Power per meter
Upwind ability
stability
quality
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Quote: Originally posted by lunchbox | So I'm thinking of getting another kite to replace my beloved Vapor 7.8. It's still in really good shape and probably has a few years left but I guess
I'm just looking to mix things up a little bit and keep it fresh. Here's what I was thinking:
1. Ozone Yakuza GT
2. Wait for Ozone's new race kite (don't know the name)
3. Combat
4. Century 2
5. HQ Prodigy
6. Reactor III (aka 2013)
If you were me, what would you get? And if you have ridden any of these, I would love to hear your opinion.
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7.8 Vapor is my favorite kite...
I would think you would be disappointed with anything less than a race kite as a replacement...
Just get a new Vapor - in custom colors
PL reactor 2013 2.8
PL XR+
Home-brew buggy
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Okay just for the heck of it... What about a comparison between the Century II and the Reactor II(or the new III)....?
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I've been thinking of that very thing for a long time. That would be a very fun and interesting comparison. If someone on this forums already tried
both kites, I would love to hear your feedback :D
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I would think you would be disappointed with anything less than a race kite as a replacement...
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Yeah, I've definitely thought about that. If I were to get a non race kite replacement it would definitely have to be a slightly bigger size. I might
still miss the adrenaline rush that I get from those race kites...oh, what to do :P
Flexifoil Blurr 2.5, Ozone Cult 3.5, Nasa Star 3 4.0 Ozone Yakuza 4.0, PL Reactor 4.9, JoJo RM+ 5.0, Ozone Method 5.0, Ozone Yakuza 6.0, Flexifoil
Blade IV 6.5, Nasa Star 3 7.0, PL Vapor 7.8, JoJo RX 8.0 (in route), Flexifoil Blade VIP 8.5, PL Vapor 9.4, Ozone Yakuza 10.0, PL Reactor II 10.8, PL
Vapor 16.1, PL Venom II 13, PL Charger 15, 19, Flysurfer Unity 12, Flysurfer Pulse 2 14, Flysurfer Speed 2 SA 19, Flysurfer Speed 3 21, MBS Comp 95
landboard, PL Folding buggy, PL XR+ buggy, Slingshot LFT, Lots of surfboards
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HQ Toxic 8.0 sounds like what you need :P It isn't a race kite, but it is meant specifically for buggies. It is so much bang for your buck!
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Ozone R1 V3 7m
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Man I would love that 7.8 for my quiver.
go fly a kite trainer 1.4 m
thunderfoil 9 ft.
Flexi sting 1.7m
Ozone flow 2.0 m
PL Vapor 3.2 m
Ozone Flow 5 m
PLVapor 6.5 m
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Quote: Originally posted by Demoknight | HQ Toxic 8.0 sounds like what you need :P It isn't a race kite, but it is meant specifically for buggies. It is so much bang for your buck!
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I've been considering the same thing, however, for someone who is used to (and loves) flying RACE KITES, I think that a Toxic might be a step down.
Not to say that Toxic is a bad kite, its just a different breed... More like a fast cruiser than a race kite... I REALLY WANT a Toxic 8m, but I'm more
into cruising than going fast,... And quite frankly am intimidated by Vapors.
I might have tried one have Jeff's Century Soulfly's at JIBE, but just got wrapped up in doing other stuff and kinda wish I had tried one... Oh well
IMHO I've always thought as race kites go, that the Yaks are uber awesome looking and have seen some vids of guys really whipping those things around.
I'm going to take a nap now
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Just to stir the pot I'll say you shouldn't replace the Vapor 7.8 but you should buy a CH2! De power is De best! ;D
Tide? What's a tide? Man, it's 1000 miles to any ocean.
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Man I would love that 7.8 for my quiver.
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Yeah...it's a great kite and size...definitely my go to buggy kite for the normal light winds we get here.
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I've been considering the same thing, however, for someone who is used to (and loves) flying RACE KITES, I think that a Toxic might be a step down.
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Yeah...nothing against the Toxic and don't get me wrong, I would love to try it, but that would be my fear as well.
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Just to stir the pot I'll say you shouldn't replace the Vapor 7.8 but you should buy a CH2! De power is De best!
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I am seriously looking at replacing my Charger I 15m with a new Charger 2 for the water...heard a lot of good things about them. However, the primary
place where I buggy is very small, really light wind, a little gusty, holey and because I use this kite to buggy during my lunch hour, quick set up is
the utmost important...don't think a Ch2 would work to well in these conditions....but I do love depower
Flexifoil Blurr 2.5, Ozone Cult 3.5, Nasa Star 3 4.0 Ozone Yakuza 4.0, PL Reactor 4.9, JoJo RM+ 5.0, Ozone Method 5.0, Ozone Yakuza 6.0, Flexifoil
Blade IV 6.5, Nasa Star 3 7.0, PL Vapor 7.8, JoJo RX 8.0 (in route), Flexifoil Blade VIP 8.5, PL Vapor 9.4, Ozone Yakuza 10.0, PL Reactor II 10.8, PL
Vapor 16.1, PL Venom II 13, PL Charger 15, 19, Flysurfer Unity 12, Flysurfer Pulse 2 14, Flysurfer Speed 2 SA 19, Flysurfer Speed 3 21, MBS Comp 95
landboard, PL Folding buggy, PL XR+ buggy, Slingshot LFT, Lots of surfboards
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