Damnnn this used to be a fine USA country with pride, goals, and direction.
Saturn IV, lets put a man on the moon.
Launched July 16th 1969, moon landing July 20th, 1969.
It was the largest, most powerful rocket ever built and, having served as the launch platform for the Apollo manned moon mission, probably qualifies
as the most famous rocket as well.
The Saturn V's task may have been the most monumental in a clearly audacious project. While earlier rockets struggled to put even small capsules into
Earth orbit, the Apollo program needed to heft a complex package consisting of a Command Module, a lunar lander and a capsule capable of returning
home after a round trip of more than a half-million miles.
It took more than a decade of debate to come up with the final design of the Saturn V and the Apollo spacecraft it would blast into the heavens.
Research on a 1 million-pound thrust engine actually began in 1953. The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) gave approval to the
Saturn development program on New Year's Eve, 1959.
A team led by German-born Wernher von Braun at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., came up with a 3-stage design that stood 363
ft. tall--60 ft. taller than the Statue of Liberty--when the Apollo spacecraft was sitting on the launchpad. When fully loaded with propellants, the
rocket weighed 6.2 million pounds. It had more than 3 million parts. At full throttle, its five first-stage engines produced a thundering 7.6 million
pounds of thrust at liftoff. All told, a Saturn V churned out more power than 85 Hoover Dams or, if you prefer, enough energy to light up New York
City for 75 minutes.
Blast Off
A moon mission was, in a sense, a study in attrition. Igniting seconds before actual liftoff, turbopumps with the power of 30 diesel locomotives
forced 15 tons of kerosene and liquid oxygen fuel per second into the five F-1 engines. The first stage burned for approximately 2.5 minutes, driving
the astronauts into their seats with the equivalent of 4.5 times the force of gravity, or 4.5 g's. After rising to an altitude of 38 miles, the
138-ft.-long, 33-ft.-dia. first stage shut off, separated, and burned up while dropping back through the atmosphere.
The second stage, relying on two J-2 engines, burned 260,000 gal. of liquid hydrogen and 83,000 gal. of liquid oxygen for 6 minutes, lifting the
spacecraft to 115 miles before separating.
The third stage consisted of a single J-2 engine that generated 225,000 pounds of thrust and burned for another 2.75 minutes, producing an orbital
velocity of around 17,500 mph. But it did not immediately separate. Instead, the remaining structure continued to orbit Earth until a "go/no-go"
decision was made by Mission Control in Houston. At that time, the third-stage rocket, technically known as an S-IVB, reignited and achieved
"translunar injection." Once escape velocity, the speed needed to overcome Earth's gravity, or 24,500 mph, was achieved, the S-IVB was discarded as
well.
The process of elimination continued over the course of the mission. The lower level of the Lunar Excursion Module was left on the moon. By the time
three weary astronauts splashed down during their water landing, only a small capsule survived the long and costly mission.
In all, including test flights, 13 Saturn V rockets were launched.
Big Grins Time; You Want Loud Horsepower, CRANK the volume:
Impressive for sure :D
You mentioning horsepower made me wonder... Apparently a Saturn 5 has 38 million horsepower! (I wonder if I actually collect 38 million horses they
could get me to the moon... ?? )
You know one of the most recent things I heard of from America ? A TV program about 'Honey Boo Boo'. How times have changed ! (I lost about 11 brain
cells just thinking about it).
Certain factions feel like we should be embarrassed by our success and world dominance. Both should be diminished as much and quickly as possible. I
don't agree with that position, but that's my not so humble opinion about why we are where we are right now.
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This probably opens a door and should be addressed in another thread but in short...
#1 it's not a "country" any more since it entered into commerce by filing it's corporate charter.. ..it is literally a "corporation". Once it entered
into commerce, it died and became a dead "person" in law called a corps. It can sue and be sued. (hint) Countries are nations led by kings.
Corporations are led by presidents. Early 1900s the union states lost their sovereignty and filed bankruptcy. (see executive order 6073, 6102, 6111
and Executive Order 6260) and the government, by becoming a corporation (for the bankruptcy) lays down its sovereignty and takes on that of a private
citizen with the same protections and immunities but insolvent. Neither can it exercise power which is not derived form the corporate charter and THAT
is granted by man. Man can not convey a right to another which he himself does not have.
#2 $17T debt isn't something I would want to be proud of. Does the fall not come before the pride? When the people began using debt to function in
life, they then gave into letting someone else handle their affairs. They even let the government scribe their own debt notes (FRN). How convenient is
that?
#3 "world dominance" is a misnomer at best, since NO MAN entered the world with a label or title greater than the next (naked) there is no dominion
one man can have over another man without consent. And since The corporate United States is a government that offers services at the barrel of a gun
and insist that their laws apply to YOU and not them simply because they say so. Really?
Reality check.. "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed" correct? So why do the people
think their government is out of control when the government works for them? Is it not voluntary? Who pays taxes? Is it the people or strangers pay
taxes?
"Who ordained the states Man or heaven? (can't say heaven, cause you admit God, can't say Man because man would be admittedly OVER state then ... Hmmm
what a pickle
"Does the tail wag the dog? Can the clay say to the potter fashion me this way"?
Does the law not say "he who knows not how to assert his rights has none"? lol
MAXIMS RULE !
I digress
Maybe we should put a dog on the moon now. LOL
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#1 it's not a "country" any more since it entered into commerce by filing it's corporate charter.. ..it is literally a "corporation". Once it entered
into commerce, it died and became a dead "person" in law called a corps.
Gaylan-I'm really sorry to hear that you've fallen for any of this. I would pay close attention to this area of that website if you plan on using any
Freeman "legal tactics" in your life. Best of luck to you. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land#Freeman_suc...
Tide? What's a tide? Man, it's 1000 miles to any ocean.
wow I read what I read in the "law" itself, not on some freeman on the land website... Opinions can not superseded the supreme court rulings...
but since there are the main stream doubters all around, and I would quickly become the enemy for telling the truth, I will reframe from making such
comments about how stupid and gullible people really are to believe creation can have more authority than the creator...
“It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.”
I don't need luck all I have and need is faith.
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we just talking rocket science stuff here.. you know.. like sending people to the moon and stuff.. Should be right up your alley . . . aren't you a
neuro brain surgeon? rofl
I think I need a bottle in front of me . . .
:P
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EDIT: I think I'll retract from the conversation,... There's no benefit to making contribution which may prove divisive... Sorry. Aren't we supposed
to be talking about kites?
A triumph for the species has been turned into " 'murika - #@%$#! yeah!" in the interim, which saddens me. The humility of the 1969 episode IIRC in
From the Earth to the Moon is missing in the modern underachievers who are grasping the coat tails of those steely-eyed missile. Don't forget that
without von Braun, it'd be a Red moon... and without Bush, we'd be on Mars by now. #@%$#! yeah.
On a lighter note, my personal heros are Buzz Aldrin and Edmund Hillary.
Hillary got to the top of Everest, took a look around then took a leak over the side.
Buzz, in one interview, said that the "There you go!" at 0:25 in the following clip is him having just finished taking a whizz on the moon :D
Putting a man on the moon was very much about the USA flexing it's muscles and asserting dominance over USSR. It was the visible part of "Capitalism
is superior to Communism".
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Here I was just celebrating an awesome technical and engineering achievement of the Saturn IV, and many of you, like Buzz Aldrin, seem to need to
pissss on the moon.
read into it what you want.
I do salute freedom of speech.
"No one can hear you scream in space"
Dave - Life is a big ocean out there to swim in.
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celebrating an awesome technical and engineering achievement of the Saturn IV
Oh hell yeah! And the big balls of the guys who strapped themselves
onto the top of all that fuel. And the nerds with the slide-rules who sent them up and got them back safe...
Watched the first shuttle launches on TV, live... the first one was scrubbed IIRC which was tough on a young fella up at some ungodly hour of the
morning
Quite the memories hu? I was just a tike but I remember all the hustle and bustle. I later recall in 72 (I think) watching it at school. I think we
were in Quantico, Va. at the time. But that was the last one if I'm not mistaken.
Yea, quite the accomplishments. If the "people" weren't so oppressed grater things could be achieved.
Maybe an oxygen tank and a BIIIG kite I could do it?
lol
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