A nice Montana V 12.5 meter for sale but it does have a flying issue. The leading edge want's to tuck and flip the kite while flying, then it falls out of the sky. Most noticebly when going up wind. I've tried just about every adjustment I can think of and nothing has corrected the issue. I did snag the bridle a couple of times last winter and suspect this is the culprit. I haven't enough expertise in kites to trouble shoot this. Somebody that knows more about bridles may find they can fix this issue and have a kite they can enjoy for many years to come. Myself, it will just sit in the closet forever and not get used. I hate to sell something with a defect but don't know what else to do other than chop it up for making jackets. Feel free to make some kind of offer, I hate for this kite to go to waste.
Some pics can be seen here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/125753523@N02/

I'm interested

But thinking about it.

U2u sent with questions.

U2U sent back

Can anyone U2U me Chris @ HQ's email address? it would be much appreciated.

Got it, thanks Sean

Quote: Originally posted by Cheddarhead

I hate to sell something with a defect but don't know what else to do other than chop it up for making jackets.

Kind of curious why you wouldn't just send it off to FixMyKite, PowerZone, or Windfire Designs for a tune-up or just get a new bridle from HQ?

ATB,
Sam

SSSSSSHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

I've never heard of anyone sending in an open celled foil for such an issue so I was out of ideas. Physical damage repairs, yes, but not flying issues. I only hear of Flysurfers getting tune ups so I figured Flysurfer is the only brand that does this, not HQ or Ozone, etc. It's just one of those things that I'm not aware of because I simply have never heard of this or experienced this before. I plead ignorance I guess I've since heard through the grapevine that this would most likely NOT be bridle stretch and simply a tweaking issue needed through trial and error. If I knew how to tune myself I would attempt it in a heart beat. Playing with AOA isn't something I'm knowledgeable about, I'm afraid I would make things worse
I posted a thread last year regarding this kite, but I don't believe sending it in for a tune up was ever mentioned. I was very hesitant to put this on the for sale board. Hindsight says I should have investigated the issue much further. I played with adjustments on and off for half a winter and still couldn't figure it out. I could never chop up a kite, that would be against my morals I would give it away before that would happen. So you see, this is a prime example of me making things more complicated than they have to be simply because I don't know any better. Live and learn the hard way I guess.:D

I would send it to John at Powerzone. He made a custom bridle for me for a very reasonable price and it is phenomenal.

I've sent out a few emails on what it'd take to tune this guy up (Chris @ HQ, Powerzone, & Fixmykite), but since it's the weekend, I'm still waiting on replies... I'm hoping this works out for me.

FYI - Soliver has dibs until I hear otherwise

I have a Montana 3 that exhibited very similar behavior. I added a pigtail about 3mm the a line bridal cluster and the main 'A' bridal mixer ( I think these terms are correct). This lifted the leading edge of the kite up just enough to stop the collapses.

Quote: Originally posted by propylene22

I have a Montana 3 that exhibited very similar behavior. I added a pigtail about 3mm the a line bridal cluster and the main 'A' bridal mixer ( I think these terms are correct). This lifted the leading edge of the kite up just enough to stop the collapses.

Don't you mean cm ??? 3mm is about 1/8 inch

Kite is Pending

Quote: Originally posted by dangerdan

Quote: Originally posted by propylene22   I have a Montana 3 that exhibited very similar behavior. I added a pigtail about 3mm the a line bridal cluster and the main 'A' bridal mixer ( I think these terms are correct). This lifted the leading edge of the kite up just enough to stop the collapses. Don't you mean cm ??? 3mm is about 1/8 inch

HA!

I'm curious too propylene? 3mm isn't much of a pigtail

Go get it Spencer!!

Sold and will be on its way to Georgia shortly

:evil:

Nice Spencer! Congrats.

Thanks Guys... now I'm just gonna have to set it aside and wait til I can afford to get it fixed... spent my wad.

but hey, I also have Utahtami's RII en route as well

Whoa... this thing is HUGE

<beavis voice>That's what she said...<\beavis voice>

Quote: Originally posted by SpecialK

<beavis voice>That's what she said...<\beavis voice>

Somehow I knew someone would go there

Quote: Originally posted by soliver

Quote: Originally posted by dangerdan   Quote: Originally posted by propylene22   I have a Montana 3 that exhibited very similar behavior. I added a pigtail about 3mm the a line bridal cluster and the main 'A' bridal mixer ( I think these terms are correct). This lifted the leading edge of the kite up just enough to stop the collapses. Don't you mean cm ??? 3mm is about 1/8 inch HA! Soi guess the length of the actual pigtail is about 1 cm but with the knots etc. it only extends the length of the bridal by a few mm. I had initially made it longer but it killed the flying characteristics of the kite. I'm curious too propylene? 3mm isn't much of a pigtail