As another option I just heard about, how well do you think the Vibe Trainer 2.3 would suit me

Negatory little buddy. You would learn more and have more fun with a 4 line kite as mentioned earlier. The vibe is a 2 line kite. 4 line will give relaunch capability and is infinitely more controllable.

Thank you I was not sure if the vibe was four line or not. I am glad you told me.

Quote: Originally posted by sadsack

Hi, I this is a cheap and good way to start out with power kites. http://www.ebay.com/itm/power-kite-4-dual-lines-control-Spor...

Just to go back to address this particular kite (sorry changing topic and i know sadsack did okay with it). I spent several hours with a girl that brought one of these to a kite fest trying to help her out. The kite itself doesn't change at all in shape of profiles from middle to wingtips so it's identical cells just chopped down. The bridle was a nightmare and the line total crap stretchy twisted nylon. Making all kinds of adjustments to the bridle the best I could do was get it to fly about the same as holding a bedsheet out and hanging on to all corners and getting pull. The line had so much stretch it was kind of crazy fun trying to control it waiting for the 1-2 second delay in response. I put a good set of line on it just to get it to take off and have some sort of response but between the shape of the kite and bridle you couldn't do that much with it. She had spent the 40.00 to buy it and then if she wanted to get it to fly at all (as crap as it was) she would need to spend almost the same price to buy better line to still hold onto a bag - I saw it as 40.00 totally wasted with the frustration it gave her trying to get it to fly. So some deals aren't that good of a deal in the long run. Also there are usually many good used kites out there and quite a few trainers sold to kite surfers go for very cheap often with little use so don't overlook a a good deal on a good used kite especially if a PKF member gives you the straight up info on it.

Mark I got a Vibe 2.3 Trainer for my 6 year old kids and they mastered it and got bored with it after a few times. I then got them a very small 4 line kite on handles (Peter Lynn Pepper 1.5) and they can handle that (though I do have to hold them down when the wind picks up!)

What are your thoughts on the Ozone Imp Quattro 2.5 for me

Quote: Originally posted by Mark_kitetraction

What are your thoughts on the Ozone Imp Quattro 2.5 for me

Can't go wrong with an Ozone.... you will likely see bargains as retailer's try to clear out older stock as a result of Ozone discontinuing almost all of their fixed bridle kites.

ATB,
Sam

Which of the two kites the Ozone or the PKD would be better?

What's the price on each one?

The PKD is $183 The Ozone is $157

It's really a tough choice. I personally would just buy both and sell one of them off later.

Is the $157 the total price and it's a complete kite(lines/handles) and is it a brand new kite? If so; that's a really good price.

I thought the PKD was a lot cheaper?

http://www.pkdkitesusa.com/products/Buster-Soulfly.html

Ozone recently stepped out of the land kite market for the moment.

Jeff(BigKid) is the USA PKD distributer; and he lives up near you.


If both kites are new; for the price; the Ozone is the better deal.

I should mention I have the 3m Quattro and it's a pretty nice kite. I fly it a lot when the wind is gusty. I haven't yet had the chance to fly a PKD Buster.




http://ozonekitesusa.com/proddetail.asp?prod=ozone2012_quattro_size

I just received the Buster Soulfly 2.2 today. Going to fly it saturday. Would you recommend using the control bar or handles?

excellent...imo fly both
pray for 8/12 mph winds start on the bar fly an hour get good and use to it switch over to the handles and put it up again
the bar will be easier to grasp but you will eventually find the handles to be the best way to go you will have better control
get pictures have fun!

I am new to quad line kiting. The handles seem to be connected to each other with another line. Are they supposed to be? I am wondering what this is.

Quote: Originally posted by Mark_kitetraction

I am new to quad line kiting. The handles seem to be connected to each other with another line. Are they supposed to be? I am wondering what this is.

It's called a strop. It allows you to use the handles with a harness with a hook or pulley.

If you are starting out, you should probably not worry about a harness for a bit yet.

The strop won't impede you from using the handles for normal static flying. If anything, they will minimize a common tendency among new fliers which is referred to as flailing or using waaaay more hand/arm movenment than is necessary to control the kite.

ATB,
Sam