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Yea I have got to stop posting when I wake up in the middle of the night, I don't even remember posting at all! Post edited to just a smile.

My albi for postings I have had to later rethink... the computer was left on and the cat's typing is getting better.



ATB,
Sam

I wish I had a cat to blame it on, I do have two dogs, one is too old and lazy, the other is smart, sometimes smarter than me but he has big paws.

I own both of these harnesses. The access base is what I use for standup activities as the load is spread across the lower back and legs pretty
equally . Cinching it down takes some practice, I find that bending over while pulling the straps helps find the loose bits. The loop may take more time
to put the chicken loop through, but it really isn't much. The Divine is better in the buggy as the pull is from a different direction. I find that the divine makes me sit higher in the buggy (flexi stainless ) so that I need a higher back support. The ozone doesn't have the back support problem for me. They both are well built. Walking is easier in the Ozone ( who plans on walking ). I have the bullet spreader on the divine but will be switching to the standard hook this season.

Thanks Ted! What's your waist size? Sounds like the Ozone can be tough to get right if you haven't got loads of snow gear on?

I'm a 36" and have no problem getting it on over sweatpants under ski pants. It does have to be cinched in a couple of times
early in the session but is no problem from then on. When the leg pads are placed in the correct location, the harness pulls fairly equally on the waist and legs thus spreading the load. When I'm using a strop and FB kites I shackle a release where the chicken loop goes. A light spray of silicone will make the straps and buckles work easier until they get broken in.

At a 32 waist and just wearing jeans for landboarding it sounds like I'll struggle to cinch it in enough

Pity as my kite store has a sale on the Base version without the hook...

Does the kite store have one you can try on?

No it's not nearby, it would be mail order. Unfortunately there aren't many kite stores in the UK, and my nearest one is a couple of hours drive away

Same here. Closest kite shop is about 4 hours drive.

We demo harnesses in addition to our demo kites. We even have the HQ though we don't list it on our site.

But if someone wants to try an Ozone, Dakine Fusion or HQ seat harness, Hardwater Kiting has them but it doesn't help you if you aren't here in the Northeast I guess.

I was just going to ask - what about the Dakine Fusion? How would that compare to the PL Devine?

Wow, I didn't expect the divine to feel that different than the ozone. It's a completely different experience. With the ozone I could feel a hard pull shared 70/30 between my waist and leg straps with lots of slop around the waist. With the divine, the pull is distributed evenly right around your arse and was very comfortable. So much so that I didn't feel like I could "feel" the kite enough. It will take some getting used to but I think I like it.

That's the difference between a harness like the Access and a seat harness. The Divine is a comfortable harness in some ways compared to the Access SB. Really depending on the type of use and how well you fit. The Divine feels a lot like the HQ IMO. More freedom than a Fusion but no where near the support. The Fusion in my experience is the most reliable and solid interface between you and your kite. All of my advanced flying and speed sessions are done in a Fusion. I need all the support and comfort I can get. This is where the Fusion is top dog, comfort under load. All these other harnesses are more comfortable in general but without the solid back support and fit that hugs you like a glove under load. It really allows you to feel where the kite is without having to look.

Harnesses (to me) are like ski boots. The better the fit the better the performance. I don't care much how comfortable it is sitting at the bar, I want it to be comfortable when I'm pushing it. The Fusion is that kind of harness and thus the price tag. But for long term durability I haven't seen anything else that lasts so long.

There is little to no comparison between the Dakine and the Peter Lynn. It's like comparing a Military Hummer to a new Wrangler. Both good, but totally different duty levels.

I like the SB because for all around use for most people it's a great harness for the money. For touring in light to moderate winds I like it because if the wind dies I can hike or skin in it and not feel like I'm in a harness at all. I think the SB and Peak combo is a killer set up and bang for the buck it can't be beat. :D

I really need to find someone with an Access to see if I can get it tight enough over jeans!

Just for you Robinson, I measured my ozone harness with it completely tightened. I used a flexible sewing measuring tape.

The legs tighten down to 18"(roughly 45 cm) in circumference at its tightest. They fit around the the middle to upper thigh. My legs measure 24".

The waist tightens down to 32" (roughly 81 cm) at its tightest.

Ooooooo! That's good to know actually. Ssayre, mind if I list those measurements on the Ozone SB page on our site? That may be pretty helpful for some of our customers.

Not at all. Glad I could help.

I will say if your someone that is around the minimum tolerances, you will have 4 pretty long straps flopping around.

Ssayre you're a gent!!

I'm a 32" waist (in jeans size anyhow) so it might be pushing it at the lower limit of it's fit.

I'm taking my kids for a ski lesson on Sunday and they also have a climbing shop there. They have some Petzl harnesses in stock (the Corax seems to be a decent all rounder that isn't too expensive), and also Black Diamond (Momentum seems OK and is quite cheap). I might get them to hook me up to a wall so I can try a few and see how comfortable (or not!!) they are.

Anyone else tried a climbing harness like this with a board?

I have/use a Black Diamond momentum AL (adjustable leg loops) and don't find it uncomfortable, but I have never worn a kite harness so can't offer comparison. But I could wear that harness all day just walking around, and spent a fair amount of time hanging on it in the gym/at the crag :D

Ah yes the Black Diamond Momentum AL is the one the climbing shop stocks. Looks like it has a fair amount of padding. And it's cheap.

Do you have a carabiner to hook your chicken loop into or do you open your chicken loop and put it directly through the belay loop on the harness?

I put the chicken loop through the belay loop. Adding a carabiner would definitely have made the bar too far away.

Adding a carabiner might not be an issue with my Peak, the bar isn't miles away.

But going back to the Ozone here's a thing....

I'm a 32" waist as far as I was aware. Every pair of diesel or levis jeans I wear are 32. However it appears that even though I wear that size (and they DO fit, I'm not squeezing myself into them in a pathetic attempt to cling onto my youthful slimmer self!) it appears to bear no meaning to the actual roundness of my gut. I mean six pack.

Having just measured my waist with a tape measure I'm a somewhat rotund 36", so it sounds like the Ozone WILL fit me after all and with adjustment to spare.

My bambiesque legs sounds like they'll cope aswell, they measure 22" just below the upper thigh.

ozone should work. You'll have to push the excess material around as you tighten to allow it the full tightening range.

Yeah hopefully. Gonna try a couple of those climbing harnesses being as I'm there on Sunday. If they feel like they are going to cut me in half I'll order the Ozone Access Base I think!