I was just wandering if anybody has had their buggy on the ice
and if it works I will be up on green lake 70 mile bc this winter and I was going to try to put skis on it but if I can use it the way it is I will do that I also have a sail buggy I want to try on the ice thanks mike

Hell yes you can and must if your lucky enough to be near ice. Haven't done it yet but google it and you will find some ideas and I'm sure people will chime in with their ideas.

Coolbreeze had his Apexx set up to buggy on ice/light snow. He let the air out of the big foots to allow a bicycle chain around the tire and added the air back into the tires to hold the chain in place. Worked great untill the snow got too deep.

Here is a classic. Let's watch Ozzy fly...

https://vimeo.com/channels/kitebuggy/17496413

Oh my lord!!!!

I was trying to find markite's ice buggy video he posted this last winter too. He got fast as hell.

Found it..

Holy Schnikes Angus! That was an OBE for the ages. On ice no less. Pretty graceful of that dude to do a mid-air roll, that could have ended really badly. :o

If you use ice blades bring spare lines.

I've seen friends run over lines with buggy's on ice blades. All it takes is a lull in the wind or outrunning the wind as you turn downwind to have those nice new lines fall under the blades and get cut. It happens in slow motion too. Something like Ohhhhhh nnooooo thaaat doooesn't loooooooook good!!! > No no no no!!! > CRAP@@XX**!! > walk of shame.

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Here is a classic. Let's watch Ozzy fly... https://vimeo.com/channels/kitebuggy/17496413

That's my buggy now. The downtube for barrows and skates has a dent in it from where the blade gouged into it. I'd love to try to buggy on the ice sometime.

I made some blades last year. Haven't had a real good test yet It absolutely killed me when I missed out on a couple opportunities last winter to give them a shot. This picture was the perfect day EXCEPT the wind never showed up. Not one single puff of wind that day. I was never so sad in my life! To stand there on primo ice and not have wind:evil::evil: Unfortunately it snowed a couple days later and put an end to my chances. Fingers crossed I get another chance this winter.

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If you use ice blades bring spare lines. I've seen friends run over lines with buggy's on ice blades. All it takes is a lull in the wind or outrunning the wind as you turn downwind to have those nice new lines fall under the blades and get cut. It happens in slow motion too. Something like Ohhhhhh nnooooo thaaat doooesn't loooooooook good!!! > No no no no!!! > CRAP@@XX**!! > walk of shame.

Skis work equally well for slicing lines

$100 lines gone in a matter of seconds:evil:

Oh wow, that thing looks awesome! I can only imagine how fast you could go with that...just think how much grip it will have on ice and all the line tension you could build up.:evil:

I can't seem to find any pictures of Snowspider's set up?

Can somebody please post 1 for the oldfart!

:bigok:

Ditto on the lines... I've sliced a few. I've also had spectators on skates slice them.
You can go very fast on good ice with a very small kite. The biggest problem can be outrunning the
kite if the wind is up and down as you do not lose speed very quickly.

Damn it you got me dreaming about the winter...! Start of a heat wave around Boston today. Boy Did I have a blast and lots of days last winter in comfortable cold

Yeah cutting your own lines can happen wih just a bit of lack of attention and quick carelessness ......but...

The biggest danger in getting line cut may be if you ride where the general public frequents..or whenever and wherever non kiters happen to come to skate....but also there's risk from other kiters .

If my kite is set down and anyone comes my way on a bare ice day with skates I get nervous and in defense mode. Snow covered still a problem w/ski edges. I will run ahead and wave people away. Kiters will understand, but many in general public will not understand or ignore you by lack of comprehension or indifference. Yell ' Wait! Stop!' at someone and they think 'What? why? No..not stopping kite dude!' ....not all, but many in general non-kiting public


Say if you go to a kite festival on ice and theres a lot of folks setting up, coming in 'hot', zipping around the base area, it's not good to have lines out unless ready to launch. Better to wind it up on handles and set it on kite during breaks/lunch/etc.....

You can see a kite from a distance or as you get close but you often can't see lines till your right on top of them.
A staked kite is not alway standing up 'at attention'..canopy filled to give visual clue to see exact line direction. It may be rumpled flat with snow all over it and may not give the exact position of the lines and handle...which may not be directly downwind from kite, but angled off to either side a bit.

The general public/famiies skating over toward you, maybe to take a look-see at your staked kite...big danger!

Riding alone may note be safe for you, but it is for your kite!!

Good to bring a splicing kit along(fid or wire, line pieces, extra lines.


Regarding Chedderheads's blades. They look nice. Bet some would love you to make them some.


Regarding using a buggy with converted with blades in general:
You can't angulate like standing on ice skates to 'hold the line'.

Isn't there side pull slippage when fully powered at times? A friend w/blades had bad side slippage. Maybe they just need sharp , sharp edge all the time?


A specific ice buggy design with angulated blades or even variable angulation control (by feet) could be a better idea?

Thoughts?

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Have not tried this but I believe this was a design to try and angulate outer skiis if you look at it.

It took a while but I finally found a PKF thread started by kitesleder from Kelowna.

If anyone knows where to get knobby tires to fit a PL CompST buggy I might try it too.