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[*] posted on 1-3-2016 at 05:47 AM
what do to when there is no wind


Thought with all you hard water kiters I would show how its done where the wind sucks and the waters wet. This is my family- we just are not the kind that like to take hikes together. Andrew is the video man- enjoy Scott





This is a class III-IV run near our house this was the first half of the run - the video editor got tired of editing :D



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[*] posted on 1-3-2016 at 05:57 AM


Very nice!



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[*] posted on 1-3-2016 at 06:21 AM


man, Scott that looks fun! great stuff



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[*] posted on 1-3-2016 at 07:20 AM


Good stuff!





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[*] posted on 1-3-2016 at 09:06 AM


I was a little disturbed when I saw this guy in the background squealing like a pig



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[*] posted on 1-3-2016 at 10:23 AM


Wow...A family that white water kayaks together...how COOL is that!

Looks fun!

Is there a steep learning curve?

@B-Roc - Haha! Have to admit....I thought about Deliverance too!

Oh and if there's no wind....I surf :thumbup:



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[*] posted on 1-3-2016 at 11:29 AM


@lunchbox- yeah there is a steep learning curve to reading the water but the actual boat placement and such is not bad once you know how the water works- the wife and I used to spend 120-130 days on the water when we got married 20+ yrs ago. And I had the boys in kayaks running simple rivers when they were 7ish. Now that they have both become young man and have enough mass we have started paddling "real" water in the last yr. Kinda of crazy I had paddled this particular section 20 yrs ago and then to come back and do it again with the boys is really awesome. we have paddled 8 rivers since the first of the yr all similar to this but first one with the camera to share.
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[*] posted on 1-3-2016 at 10:14 PM


nice video Scott (and Andrew) - great that you can do this as a family, looked like a good ride. Is this close to your home or cabin?



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[*] posted on 2-3-2016 at 06:40 AM


Awesome Scott!... Tell Andrew great work!



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[*] posted on 2-3-2016 at 08:24 AM


Nice video. Agree with others that this is an OUTSTANDING way to spend time with th family. Way to go!

It didn't appear that you were in very much water, particularly when you were putting in. I imagine you hit quite a bit a rock on your way downstream. Am I wrong about this? I'd think the boats would get pretty beat up. Second, if you flip I'd think it would be pretty rough going before Eskimo rolling. All that notwithstanding, what a great time for you!





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[*] posted on 2-3-2016 at 09:04 AM


@Windstruck - The put-in is actually on the North fork of the river. So, the water there was a little shallow and bumpy. However, it was still runnable. About 45 seconds (I think) into the video, where I go through the tongue and hit a branch, the North fork joins with the South fork. From there on, the river has a lot more water. Still, it was a low level. Our skills and abilities have not progressed enough to run that river at a higher level than what we did. While throughout the trip we definitely hit rocks, there was plenty of water to run the section.

The boats are pretty stout machines. Bumping rocks does not usually cause concern, but going over a rock and cutting a gouge in the hull of the boat can be destructive. All of our kayaks have a lot of scrapes and cuts in their bottoms! :P

Finally, it does not require much water at all to roll. If you flip, you might hit a rock, but typically not. Because the way water and rocks and the river work, you tend to flip in deeper water. So, you are typically safe. That being said, you can definitely flip in shallow water. You just gotta be sure to tuck your face in before it smashes a boulder.

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[*] posted on 2-3-2016 at 09:43 AM


Quote: Originally posted by kitekid  
@Windstruck - The put-in is actually on the North fork of the river. So, the water there was a little shallow and bumpy. However, it was still runnable. About 45 seconds (I think) into the video, where I go through the tongue and hit a branch, the North fork joins with the South fork. From there on, the river has a lot more water. Still, it was a low level. Our skills and abilities have not progressed enough to run that river at a higher level than what we did. While throughout the trip we definitely hit rocks, there was plenty of water to run the section.

The boats are pretty stout machines. Bumping rocks does not usually cause concern, but going over a rock and cutting a gouge in the hull of the boat can be destructive. All of our kayaks have a lot of scrapes and cuts in their bottoms! :P

Finally, it does not require much water at all to roll. If you flip, you might hit a rock, but typically not. Because the way water and rocks and the river work, you tend to flip in deeper water. So, you are typically safe. That being said, you can definitely flip in shallow water. You just gotta be sure to tuck your face in before it smashes a boulder.

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Andrew - greatly appreciate the detailed response. I did notice how much more water was flowing in the latter portions of the video. I've done a fair amount of Class IV/V high flow rafting in raging Western rivers and a fair amount of flat water kayaking (Olympic racing style shells) but I have zero moving-water kayak experience. I can roll with reasonable reliability in still water but suspect it is more challenging righting oneself in churning water, hydrolics, etc. Just less to brace against if the water is full of air I'd think.

I know exactly what you mean about tucking; underwater face plants would wreck your whole day!



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[*] posted on 6-3-2016 at 12:03 PM


hey windstruck i white water kayak in a playboat and rolling in churning water is not much harder than on flat if you can not get put off by it or let it play mind games with you.

sometimes you have to wait for the boat to be rocking in time with the water if that makes sense and if your a roller that looks for the surface then you can see it easier in white water.i just get paddle to catch some water then massive hip flick! nasty one is when you get pinned under a wave or waterfall and water pins boat down upside down!.

always wondered do people mix kayaking with kiting?
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[*] posted on 15-3-2016 at 04:29 PM


Scott, Nice to see this video after hearing about it at WWBB. That's a GREAT way to spend a day!



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[*] posted on 15-3-2016 at 04:59 PM


Awesome family time Scott! Thanks for sharing.
We use to shoot the lower Gauley and New River Gorge in WV. Rafts, not kayaks. But still cool as hell!



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