Hey everyone it's me again, if you don't remember I was a kid who was going to start learning with a huge 11m rhino. I was directed to a 4m and now I ride a 9m Montana in some soccer fields nearby. So here's the deal I would like to get into the water and was wondering what kind of kite to look for. I'm a poor college student so I've got to go with used and figured to keep my eyes open early. I honestly don't know at what wind speeds I use my 9m at, I use it when the flags are blowing and full but if they look too flat meaning a lot of wind I don't feel comfortable. Probably low teens I'm assuming. I'm very cautious on land because I am always by myself. I figure I'm a good swimmer and I won't mind going fast on the water. Where I would kite there are usually 15-20 mph winds. So if I feel comfortable in low teens on a 9m foil on land then what size should I look for when wind is high teens and in the water. Sorry for the long paragraph but I have no clue what to look for.

Alex - nice to see you posting again. Also pleased to see the 3m Hornet listed in your signature. Well played as a kite to learn on. I'm sure the 9m Montana is serving you well too. I've not used it personally, but have heard very good things about it.

In full appreciation that you are pinching pennies (or "folding nickels" as I used to say) I suspect many of us "old farts" might suggest a lesson as your introduction to water based activities. I've got a son in college who is also a strong swimmer and I would certainly suggest some guidance at first for him too.

Hard to drown on a soccer field, but a whole lot easier out in the water.... Just sayin... Good luck!

good day,

seems like you are moving along, being a college student you must be a good study of things....saying you don't have a clue is a little disturbing.

you must understand a kite and the wind in what you have described and thats great, you are truly ahead of the learning curve, and sounds as though you'll be well prepared for a couple of lessons and someone to help you make good decisions about getting onto the water. yes lessons.

are there others who kite in the area ? several guys in NY/lake areas who give lessons. you need to find some models (actual not virtual) to go watch, hang out with to see whats what.

are you an experienced sailor or waterman? if not, i highly advise lessons,

totally worth (if u are not experienced^^^) for your own safety and safety of others.

i know its not what you want to here, sounds like you have cautious judgement...apply as needed and you'll get there.

I personally was in very close to the same shoes as you once. High schooler with no cash. I am self taught in the Pacific (not the best way to go about things, both in water choice and novice level) my advice would be to take a lesson. If that is impossible, find someone who kitesurfs regularly and is looked up to by the other locals. Treat him like your Yoda if he'll let you. The water can be very sketchy at times, but it is very fun. With your windspeeds and experience I'd be on the look out for an 2012+ lightly used 11 or 12m if you're an average sized guy.