BreakingWind
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20m vs 25m lines?
Hi Fellas
Can you guys ring in on the main differences between flying our power kites on 20m vs 25m lines? Or other length flying lines? I see sizes from 15m,
22m, 27m and 30+m. Is there a benefit to flying on longer lines? I see a lot of kite manufactures use 20m as stock setup lines like HQ AND Peter Lynn
on many of their kites. My Cirrus Pro 4m came stock with 25m lines.
I'm assuming one benefit with longer lines is increasing the size on the wind window?
Thanks and a world without string is chaos...
BreakingWind in San Francisco
Peter Lynn Twister 2016 5.5m 7.5m
Cirrus Pro 2.5m 4m 5m
Pansh Flux 3m 5m 7m, Pansh Adam 4.5m 6.5m
Flexifoil Rage 4.7m
HQ Symphony Pro 1.3m
HQ Symphony Pro 2.5m
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abkayak
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I'm at the beach and really don't care...20, 22, 25 Whatever... My winds tend to be clean and work w/ whatever is on whatever kite...I know it's
different w/ dirtier wind or if your looking to max out the power area of a kite a longer line will help
Bottom line you run what you brung
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Twister/ 6.6m Blade/ 7.5 Apex/ 9m Fuel/ Phantom I 9,12,15,18/ 2 Flexibugs/ PL Big Foot/ landboards
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gemini6kl
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I just noticed u have a 7.3m frenzy in your quiver so why haven't you taken that out at the beach to play. that should be a sweet kite. :puzzled:
Quote: Originally posted by abkayak | I'm at the beach and really don't care...20, 22, 25 Whatever... My winds tend to be clean and work w/ whatever is on whatever kite...I know it's
different w/ dirtier wind or if your looking to max out the power area of a kite a longer line will help
Bottom line you run what you brung |
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abkayak
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Quote: Originally posted by gemini6kl | I just noticed u have a 7.3m frenzy in your quiver so why haven't you taken that out at the beach to play. that should be a sweet kite. :puzzled:
Quote: Originally posted by abkayak | I'm at the beach and really don't care...20, 22, 25 Whatever... My winds tend to be clean and work w/ whatever is on whatever kite...I know it's
different w/ dirtier wind or if your looking to max out the power area of a kite a longer line will help
Bottom line you run what you brung | |
I blew that sucker up...need some cell repairs
In fact I'm kinda running thru all my stuff...but having a blast doing so
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Twister/ 6.6m Blade/ 7.5 Apex/ 9m Fuel/ Phantom I 9,12,15,18/ 2 Flexibugs/ PL Big Foot/ landboards
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rtz
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Short lines(less than 20) can work okay if the kite is well powered up or you want them to use the kite in a smaller space. They also work good on
big kites to tame them and make them easier to fly since you have more direct control over it.
25's work great for light wind use to give the kite a bigger window. If you have a kite you tend to use on the lower end of its wind range 25's may
be better on it.
My 5m Octane is on 20's. I tried it with 25's thinking it would help it out for low wind use; but it's not really a light wind kite. So I put it
back on 20's and fly it when it's powered.
My 4.4 and 5.5 Reactors are on 25's and I prefer them on 25's. I fly them on the lower end of their wind range.
Sting 1.7, 2.4 - Flow 2, 3, 4, 5 - Reactor 2.2, 2.8, 3.5, 4.4, 5.5 - Yakuza 2.2, 2.7 - JOJO 9
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As mentioned above, short lines=less power but faster steering response. Long lines = more power but slower steering response.
Longer lines can also get you above treeline chop or into better winds further up in the gradient. As opposed to the expense of another Lineset, line
extensions are a handy option.
Chris Krug-Owner @ Hardwater Kiting. Authorized Dealer of Ozone, Flysurfer, HQ kites.
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ssayre
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+1 for line extensions. Very handy to have.
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Bladerunner
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You can fly the same size kite in lower or higher winds by changing up line lengths.
As mentioned 30m lines give you a big power stroke and potentially gets you up where there is more wind.
10m lines shrinks the window and the power burst. Making it easier and a bit safer to handle a kite in higher winds.
Any new PL kite I bought with 20m lines came with extensions. I almost never use them.
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
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