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[*] posted on 3-4-2007 at 11:43 AM


hey Thanks,, that makes sense why someone would have insurance,,, because locations require it. I live on the New Jersey Shore. We have a very nice beach here,,,, it gets busy during the summer months of July, August but other than that its a real nice place to ride,,, I would assume considering I have not done it yet. I have seen only a few times where people were riding buggys down here. I am a police officer in our beach resort town and I know of no laws prohibiting the use of buggys or kites.. So hopefully I will help keep it that way. I understand about using common sense,, you dont want to piss anyone off and create a problem for the buggys.. There are certain times during the year and times during the day that this area should be excellent for riding. Again thanks for the info and anytime you want to throw any tips my way on riding,, equipment etc that would be great.
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[*] posted on 3-4-2007 at 11:52 AM


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We need to learn from what's going on overseas and on the beaches locally . One big mistake by any of us can effect kiting for all of us !!!!

A topic dear to me. We are really fortunate here in the Jekyll Island region of South Georgia. when I started flying here, I first hooked up with some Kiteboarders and found that they were already self-policing in order to protect their use of the expansive public beaches. Their web site has a Google Map link inviting out-of-towners to visit and get tips for the best (and safe for the public) areas. http://www.hang20.net/theBeach.html . When they spot a newcomer on the beach with a rig, they are quick to welcome them and help out but are keeping a keen eye out for unsafe practices.

When I first got to this region and saw nobody buggying, I feared there was a ban. I called the local state-run authority that governs use of the beach and island activities and explained what buggying was. When they heard me use phrases like "shared-use public space" and "ecologically sensitive" and "public safety", they jumped in and said basically "That sounds great! When can we see the buggy?".

They now promote us on their site ....http://www.jekyllisland.com/activities/beaches.asp . We get 13% of our traffic from them. We try to help out whenever we can with public events by doing kite demos and so forth. They have said that if we arrange dealer demo days, they will make it an official island event and help promote.

We are lucky in that we have a location where local government is anxious to promote tourism, but I think it was important that we came to them first with a sense of civic mindedness and a regard for safety. I would suggest that others do the same in thier area *before* someone gets hurt. That way if an accident does happen, you have a fighting chance of having it viewd as an isolated incident and less of a chance of a knee-jerk ban.



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[*] posted on 3-4-2007 at 01:43 PM


We have a year round ban in one of our local Bays. After much discussion we came to this option. We respect the ban from May 24 to Sept 1 when the lifegaurds are on duty and the beaches are in full swing. In turn we self police and ride through the rest of the year ( the best for wind ) without challenge from the coast gaurd. As I've mentioned before we live in a place that is quick to put up signs but short on folks to enforce them.
For this privilege we tend to be big on self policing + the use of safety gear / lessons around here. One big mistake and we could ALL lose what we have.

We also have a sticky at skypilot on buggy tips. If you want info on how to buggy it's a great thread.
http://www.skypilotkiteboarding.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47...



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[*] posted on 3-4-2007 at 03:05 PM


Good Information::::::::; Once I get going here I am going to try and recruit people from around here to get into the sport. Keeping all the above info in mind!
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[*] posted on 3-4-2007 at 03:52 PM


Yeah, and as a Cop, you're in a great position to get the inside skinny on how local government works in this area. At least you're better equipped to know who to ask (about who to ask). Parks and land use stuff can be tricky- jurisdiction can be ambigouous.
Another angle to consider, especially if you start an informal club, is the local Chamber of Commerce. They may see kiting as an attraction since it is colorful and exciting for the public to watch. That is until you start running over puppies and toddlers, which is why you self-organize in the first place. Get commerce behind you and you have more pull with local government.



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[*] posted on 3-4-2007 at 05:27 PM


All true,, our beach area is about 5 miles long,,, they actually call it the "Five mile beach". As far as the law goes I know just about all of the cops in our three jurisdictions. Wildwood consists of three small cites. North Wildwood, Wildwood, and Wildwood crest. Wildwood and Wildwood Crest have some of the larger areas here. We actually have what they call "The Wildwood Kite Festival" I forget what time of year it comes in,, pretty sure summer,,, But if you google it you may find something on it. They used to allow motor cycles (dirt bikes) to ride the beach years ago but that stopped most likely because of damage to dunes and injuries. So now there are no dirt bikes and you cant touch the sand dunes. You can drive your vehicle down there with a permit and its only for the purpose of sport fishing. As I said before I have never seen what few kite buggys were down there get kicked off. Wildwood crest does have signs up that say "No kite flying from the third week in June to September something but I am not sure how much they enforce that. I will do my best to see that things go right here.
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[*] posted on 3-4-2007 at 06:51 PM


hi joecat

i have been to wildwood crest for the past 3 years during july for family vacation. of course no kiting at this time of the year, too crowded.

i wonder until when the fun piers are open (need to entertain wife and kid) so may be I postpone my vacations in september and I can lanboard kite on the beach ?

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[*] posted on 4-4-2007 at 05:59 AM


hey Buzz,, keep in touch,,, I will try to find out the schedules for the amusement piers.. I know they are open on the weekends during September. And really if someone can work out the schedule with kids school and such, September is a really good time to vacation here. Alot less people and the weather is still really nice. As I said Wildwood Crest has the ban on kiting from the third week in June until sometime in September, I will find out exactly when.. I dont think Wildwood or North Wildwood has a ban on kiting... None of the citys even mention Buggys because I dont think they have seen enough of them to even bring the topic up..,, which is good for us. I have seen them in the past and I dont know of any problems that ever came up with regards to them.. A number of years ago when I was on patrol I saw a number of buggys running down North Wildwoods beach and the only thing I thought of was "thats cool and how do I get one"? "leebrianh" on page one of this forum lives in Delaware and he has been coming to the Wildwood beach for awhile now with his landboard and kites so he has more knowledge about the topic,, you may want to ask him some questions.
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[*] posted on 4-4-2007 at 07:28 PM


I plan on making a purchase of a buggy within the month... It appears that the Peter Lynn "Big Foot" best suits me considering my location and where I would be riding.. I have got quotes on prices. Does anyone have an idea of what the ball park price should be with regards to the Big Foot? The quote that I already obtained came from what appears to be a reputable dealership and nice people but I always want to check to see if there are other options.
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[*] posted on 8-5-2007 at 03:50 PM


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Anyone have a solution for this? You are flying the kite and it crashes. Lands upside down, any way to get the kite right side up and flying again without having to stake your handles and go flip the kite manually? Any tricks?



hi guys im new here and on the whole flying thing, this is a ? i need answering but i only have a 2 line power kite (exite 1.80 ) cheers
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