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[*] posted on 2-11-2020 at 10:01 AM
Double-sided bonding tape


Good morning everyone, many years ago I bought these brown-sided double-sided tapes on a website, they are wonderful, they stick very tightly on the fabric, I don't use it much because I don't have much and that's why I use this white double-sided tape and leave it the brown only for more complicated parts, this white one does not stick 50% than the brown one, but the price is very low too. The tapes I usually use to stick the panels together before sewing. I would like to know from the builders what types of tapes you use and where you usually buy. Thanks.



















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[*] posted on 3-11-2020 at 05:29 AM


I tried a lot of things to hold panels together. I used pins but that took too long. I spot welded them together with a soldering iron, but that took too long also. I used tape a few times but found that my sewing needle got sticky and it would cause a lot of problems.After a while I learned to just hold the panels together with just my fingers. Sometimes for difficult projects I use a stapler to hold the panel together at the starting place.

People who sew clothing always seem to use pins, so there is probably a good reason for that. I've never made any actual clothing, though I get asked to fix clothes and do hemming once in a while.



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[*] posted on 3-11-2020 at 06:08 AM


good on you:thumbup:
i just break them, never tried building one



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[*] posted on 3-11-2020 at 12:30 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Randy  
I tried a lot of things to hold panels together. I used pins but that took too long. I spot welded them together with a soldering iron, but that took too long also. I used tape a few times but found that my sewing needle got sticky and it would cause a lot of problems.After a while I learned to just hold the panels together with just my fingers. Sometimes for difficult projects I use a stapler to hold the panel together at the starting place.

People who sew clothing always seem to use pins, so there is probably a good reason for that. I've never made any actual clothing, though I get asked to fix clothes and do hemming once in a while.


I'm having the problem of glue on the needle when I use the tape, the glue accumulates on the needle and the thread starts to come apart and break, but I still found the best solution because for me it is much easier and the panels remain in position while I sew.



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[*] posted on 3-11-2020 at 11:11 PM


See you used to order from Kitebuilder. They no longer sell supplies any more and is basically just a kite builders forum.

Not sure about a local supplier for you, but FlyMarket (here in the US) sells double-sided seam tape.

https://www.flymarketkites.com/tape/double-sided-seam-tape

To fight the buildup of seam tape adhesive on the needle, you need a product called

Sewer's Aid thread lubricant and the Sailrite Magnetic Thread Lubricator.

These are the links for them:
This is what it looks like in use:



Hope that helps.

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[*] posted on 4-11-2020 at 04:46 AM


Quote: Originally posted by indigo_wolf  
See you used to order from Kitebuilder. They no longer sell supplies any more and is basically just a kite builders forum.

Not sure about a local supplier for you, but FlyMarket (here in the US) sells double-sided seam tape.

https://www.flymarketkites.com/tape/double-sided-seam-tape

To fight the buildup of seam tape adhesive on the needle, you need a product called

Sewer's Aid thread lubricant and the Sailrite Magnetic Thread Lubricator.

These are the links for them:
This is what it looks like in use:



Hope that helps.

ATB,
Sam


Thank you very much for the information.
Here in my country it is difficult to find material, I have to improvise with alternative materials or purchased through sales sites like aliexpress. My kite production is handmade and personal, I don't sell it but I would like to have it as a profession, but I can't. Regarding this thread lubricant it is very interesting but for my small machine and the amount of sewing I do, I think it is not so viable. Even so, I thank you for your help, who knows further ahead is necessary.



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[*] posted on 4-11-2020 at 04:13 PM


I do a lot of kite and windsurfing sail repairs/modifications. I race land yachts (landsailers) and I'm always altering windsurfer "race sails" for more performance.

I use double sided carpet joining tape that comes in 50mtr rolls 50mm wide and slit it to the width I need with a snap blade knife. I get it from my local floor covering shop.

When sewing I put a few drops of "Sewers Aid" as mentioned above (it's only pure silicon oil, which is soluble. I buy it in 1 litre bottles and use it on my kite lines as well) onto the needle every 300mm or so to stop it gumming up, as sometimes I'm sewing through 10 or 12 layers of dacron all bonded together by this tape. (I find the thinner the material say 2 pieces of ripstop with tape between it seems to gum up the needle more than huge thicknesses).

In Australia the carpet tape is either "Tessa" or "3M" brand.

It's Ultra thin, clear and so dam tenacious I can assemble a sail and take it out and test it in light wind before even sewing it up.
This is fantastic as the sail can then be fine tuned if needed to match the mast curve. This is invaluable as it is a domino effect when something is altered. One alteration leads to another to get it right.

The fabric can be repositioned easily on the tape for a few days and then it seems to develop a more permanent adhesion. It can still be separated/ removed later on if needed, but the tape isn't much good to be used again. If it's only been assembled a day or two it will remain on one surface and it's easily reused again.

This tape is invaluable when slit to 6mm wide strips for repairing foil race kites with their light weight fabric.
This tape is used to refit/retain their profile and not have to perforate the fabric any more with pins. These kites with leading edge plastic rods holding their profile are really fiddly to sew together. The tape solves this.

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[*] posted on 4-11-2020 at 05:37 PM


I'll have to look into that. Thanks for posting Chook. I started out making NPW kites from cheap, thin Dollar Store plastic tarp and duct tape. They flew alright. I still use the tarp from time to time, mainly for making kites for riding in the rain or just for experimenting with different ideas. It sews really well and is pretty long lasting. A tear or hole can be fixed easily with duct tape.



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[*] posted on 5-11-2020 at 04:49 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Chook  
I do a lot of kite and windsurfing sail repairs/modifications. I race land yachts (landsailers) and I'm always altering windsurfer "race sails" for more performance.

I use double sided carpet joining tape that comes in 50mtr rolls 50mm wide and slit it to the width I need with a snap blade knife. I get it from my local floor covering shop.

When sewing I put a few drops of "Sewers Aid" as mentioned above (it's only pure silicon oil, which is soluble. I buy it in 1 litre bottles and use it on my kite lines as well) onto the needle every 300mm or so to stop it gumming up, as sometimes I'm sewing through 10 or 12 layers of dacron all bonded together by this tape. (I find the thinner the material say 2 pieces of ripstop with tape between it seems to gum up the needle more than huge thicknesses).

In Australia the carpet tape is either "Tessa" or "3M" brand.

It's Ultra thin, clear and so dam tenacious I can assemble a sail and take it out and test it in light wind before even sewing it up.
This is fantastic as the sail can then be fine tuned if needed to match the mast curve. This is invaluable as it is a domino effect when something is altered. One alteration leads to another to get it right.

The fabric can be repositioned easily on the tape for a few days and then it seems to develop a more permanent adhesion. It can still be separated/ removed later on if needed, but the tape isn't much good to be used again. If it's only been assembled a day or two it will remain on one surface and it's easily reused again.

This tape is invaluable when slit to 6mm wide strips for repairing foil race kites with their light weight fabric.
This tape is used to refit/retain their profile and not have to perforate the fabric any more with pins. These kites with leading edge plastic rods holding their profile are really fiddly to sew together. The tape solves this.

Cheers.


Your information is very good. I didn't know about carpet tape, I used to use ordinary double glue tape or the one I had especially for kites. I found a lot of this for carpet here to sell, I just didn't find 3M, other brands are very common, I even have one on my desk that I didn't even know it was for.
Regarding the sewing machine, mine is very homemade, small, it certainly cannot sew many layers of fabric and is bad for sewing very fine fabrics, but it does the necessary seams, straight, zigzag and 3 stitches, but still one day i want to have a professional machine that can sew thick strips and even leather, maybe i can make my own waist hook.





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