Some pics I found made them look very high AR. Are they lifty?

heres one taken llast month..........aj

Is that Niagara Falls? haha. Nice

Bob, the Combat has a very high aspect ratio. It's a full on race kite. They have tons of lift and speed.

Here're some pics:

http://www.kite-buggy.de/my/combat/combat06.htm

Pablo, speaking of the AR, did you get any specs with them yet?

No specs yet, but I had a chance to lay the 2.9m production run combat over the 4.8m Proto, they're close to the same wing span, The span on the 2.9m is probably somewhere between the 4.5m and the 5.5m Century. So higher aspect than the 4.8m Proto that people have tried.

To measure the aspect do I just have to compare wingspan to depth nose to tail? If so I can measure most of them and get some pretty close numbers

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/targo88/4.jpg?t=11938...

4.8m proto Combat beside the 4.5m Century. Yes the 2.9 is wider than the 4.5m Century

Pablo, by saying the 2.9 is wider, do you mean the lenght (span) or the height from the leading to trailing edge?

Nope, wider wingtip to wingtip, wider wingspan, it's a bit narrower nose to tail than the Combat proto and a fair bit narrower nose to tail than the Century

Ahh... that confused me... thanks

Just to put it into some more perspective for you guys, Pablo told me it was a "ribbon" haha.

I'm psyched to try it out.

Man! That sure fills up a family room floor!

Took some rough measurements of the 5m, wing span is a hare over 5m and it's roughly 1m leading edge to trailing edge, I'm guessing this puts the aspect ratio around the 5:1 mark, That's with me spreading out the kite on the floor as best as possible, Still have to get the official factory specs.

Baluk, Why do the lines on those look so short? Or are they?

For the combat pics i posted?

Well, they arent my pics so I cant really say.

Have you ever flown on lines that short?

looks like 20m lines, big kite.

I never thought of it just being a big kite making the lines look shorter. Any idea how flight would be with short lines? You would most likely have to really be on top of things because all movement would be like right now no delay.

Yep - I'd assume that sthrasher... smaller window to work in though. (How short of lines are you thinking though)

Guys have been known to race on 15's, but 20 is common, With the short lines you go from top of window to full power to 180 change of direction right now, very quick change from full speed to max lift as well.

Now if you go with long lines, you get way more power stroke, good for either getting more power out of a kite or when the wind down low is messy you can fly higher in the clean winds.

I'll belive that.

Gulf; what "Length" lines are you using on your Pansh 3.0m ??? I have 1 good set of 300/100 lb lines but thier 100' footers... Thus I cant seem to get any decent pix of myself & the kite in the same picture without being far off & nearly out of the picture or really blurry...