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Ground Industries CONFLICT 106
Anyone have any experience with this board of any GI boards? I ordered a conflict after a lot of research and just want some opinions on how it
performs and last over time.
I'm a heavier guy at 205 pds and want to make sure it can handle the jumps and the rough riding.
Also, im using a blade iv 8.5, what do you think about this kite for boarding. I know its not depowerable, but I don't think it will be too bad, I
can
preadjust it before it goes in the air. I was going to look into depowerable flysurfer psycho 3 10/12m or something but I alread heard you need at
least 10 mph winds for it also.
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JW
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I love my GI board. What color cubes did you get? It makes a difference as to whether you go fast and straight or whether you want to be able to
carve.
I'm more concerned about your kite than your board. Do you have any experience? Is the 8.5 your first and only kite?
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its my only kite but i have had experience with them before. I just want to make sure it has enough power and lift to pull me around without just
pulling me off the board all the time.
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am not a fan of the flysurfer kites. The CONFLICT 106 is a pretty rad board. It's my favorite board. If you like a wide stance and if you eating to
many pies, that is the best board you can buy for kiting..:bird: TRY TO GET OUT AND DEMO SOME DIFFERENT GEAR
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An 8.5 blade will have more than enough power to pull you around on a board. I have a BIII 8.5 so I can't comment on the AoA adjuster of yours but
I'd recommend you go low lift at first.
You do know that blades are the most lifty fixed bridled kites around?
They'll pull you for sure but as soon as you approach the sweet spot for the kites wind speed, you'll feel it want to lift and you'll definately
launch if you redirect it too hard at the end of your run.
But it has a lot of float and that works in your favor. Just be careful and start slow.
Depower Quiver: 14m Gin Eskimo, 10m Gin Eskimo III, 6m Gin Yeti, 4.5m Gin Yeti (custom bridle and mixer)
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Quote: | Originally posted by USA_Eli_A
am not a fan of the flysurfer kites. |
Just curious - why not?
Foil Kites: Flysurfer 12m Sonic 4, 10m Soul V2, Peak 5s and 5.5m Hybrid
LEIs: 9m Naish Pivot, 12m Naish Phoenix
Land: 16" Dirtsurfer GP
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yeah i didn't know if have it at full power all the time would be anooying or now. They are more lifty then the flysurferS?
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Having ridden the BIV 8.5m, they're really quite different than the older kites, on the low power setting they're quite predictable and don't have
that "gonna kill me any second" feeling. Turn up the power and they'll wake up quite nicely. They're a lot smoother than any of the previous blades as
well so you can go out with more power before it feels scarry. Still not the ideal beginner kite. At first it'll feel like the kite's tamer than the
old blades, that is until you look down.
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ok Flysurfer kites. Positive first.
It's a nice kite, good materials, concepts are 'cool'. If flown correctly they can be fun. Probably the best auto Zenith ever!
I'm not baggin on them Butt!
-they are expensive
-it pulls too hard after the safety is used, major problem. the only one that matters
-if it deflates at all, it hangs back then you can't jump
-after jumps it'll put riders down hard and without forward speed
-I'm concerned about durability, kites with zippers??wth
-lastly, it's not easy to fly static
sorry for the negs, but i'm concerned about safety with these kites. I enjoy most kites, some are just more WORK than others.
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Quote: | Originally posted by USA_Eli_A
ok Flysurfer kites. Positive first.
It's a nice kite, good materials, concepts are 'cool'. If flown correctly they can be fun. Probably the best auto Zenith ever!
I'm not baggin on them Butt!
-they are expensive
-it pulls too hard after the safety is used, major problem. the only one that matters
-if it deflates at all, it hangs back then you can't jump
-after jumps it'll put riders down hard and without forward speed
-I'm concerned about durability, kites with zippers??wth
-lastly, it's not easy to fly static
sorry for the negs, but i'm concerned about safety with these kites. I enjoy most kites, some are just more WORK than others. |
thanks for the reply its good to know the negs and pos of all kites. I really appreciate it.
For the Gi conflict, whats up with the torsion cube system? Hows that differ then the springs that most other boards have?
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I ride mostly at the beach, first off, cubes don't rust. While they're a bit stiff for the first couple days, once they break in the feel is sweet.
Easy to change the cubes and it's a really simple/clean looking system with very little to break or go wrong.
I'm 250lbs, and I find the yellow cubes are just a hare soft for higher speed downhilling, but perfect with the kite.
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torsion cubes are really cool. Instead of loading one spring up against the other, the cube consists of tendons the expand and contract. So the
presure is 'digital'. You can feel the board push back as you ease into a turn. That eliminates wobbling:bird: and over steering. The bionic system
is much lighter, I would recomend level '4 cubes' for kiting! Those are the cubes Pablo rides too! I ride level 4 all the time, at my weight of 225.
I love my conflict!:cool2:
You should learn how to take apart the hanger from the truck so that you're fast at installing different cubes.
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how do i know what comes with the gi conflict boards, so i have to order them seperate?
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usually level 4 cubes come in the board standard. make sure you specify what you want when you order through a dealer. It's common to have many sets
of cubes and to adjust your board frequently. I'm getting settled with the 4s though. I don't think the new bionic system is in yet. If you
conflict is on order, it'll probably take a bit to get it.
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Just bought a 2nd hand flight light for £130! it has the previous bionics on it (not 07) and has come with green, light blue and v. dark blue cubes.
what colour do you recommend for kiting with as i am an atb beginner?
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try to find some yellow cubes, green might be too stiff
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You can also order in a hangar upgrade kit that comes with two of the new '08 hangars and new hardware, cubes are sold seperately. This allows you to
upgrade your older GI Bionic boards to the new '08 system that is lighter and uses the newer re-designed cubes. Cost of the upgrade kit is around 25
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I have the 2005 set up. Here is the GI information on the older cubes http://www.groundindustries.com/t3_fit_chart.htm
I am 145#s and ride the ProFlight. If you start at the top left and call the lightest blue cube 1, I have cubes 2, 3 and 4 (royal blue, purple and
yellow). I started with yellow and like those for speed runs but did find them stiff at my weight so I dropped down to the purple cubes and find
those to offer an excellent blend of speed and carve and spring.
If you are 145ish, I'd go purple on the old cubes. If pushing 200 I'd go yellow. If in doubt, get both.
I got the royal blue to ride on the street but never picked up their street slicks so I haven't riddern those cubes yet.
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cheers for the info, i am about 142 lbs so purple sounds good. but i will probably go with the hanger upgrade eventually because it sounds better
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If you go with the hanger upgrade, the cubes I provided the link to won't work. New hangar = new cubes. Just keep that in mind when ordering.
And if you order the old style cubes I linked to, the purples are called "Street Hard" and the yellows are "offstreet soft".
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I have the GI patrol 106 and a MBS 26..
I weigh 235 pounds.
I LOVE my GI the most.. Works perfect for me out on the beach with the stock cubes..
The MBS 26 I use more for doing downhill runs and running over fallin trees..
When I go out I take the GI for me and I'll bring the mbs for my friends to have something..
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Profoil 1m, 1.5, 2.5m
Samurai 3m & 5m & 7.2m
Blade IV 4.9m
FRENZY 07\' 10m
Pansh BLAZE 12.5m
Ground Industries Patrol 106
MBS 26
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