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Originally posted by USA_Eli_A your blade will do that easy! '05 frenzy, the manta does well too. looks like your quiver is doing well

Ive seen some impressive boosts on u tube with the Mantas. Not surprising, its an Ozone!

Mark the water temp here is almost 70 degrees, what are you waiting for? You should be in 4/3 wetsuit weather, pick one up and go for it! Maybe a pair of booties too...........

70 DEGREES............AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! KILIN ME!

not done yet---mid 80s by July but that also means hurricanes........................

Tridude, read my other post in my other topic!

El, Go for a used Blade or save for a new one. My 6.4 is the perfect size for me Its not real fast but for learning static jumps it was perfect. Nice float too. Jumping Imo is how much power you can hold on to and how big your plums are.

El Pelon - there are several of us that powerkite at Thude Park, which is near the intersection of I-101 and Galveston in Chandler Arizona. It's a very large retainment basin park on the east side of 101 between Chandler Blvd and Ray Road. We occasionally jump at Pecos Park near Chandler Blvd and 48th Street.

Some of the kites we have there are: Pansh Ace 5 and 8, Pansh Blaze 5, Ozone Cult 4.5, Blade IV 4.9, and a new 2008 Crossfire II 5.0 on the way. Many times we have a group of beginners we teach using a Slingshot B3, and then they move on to the Pansh Blaze or Cult 4.5 which are two stable (not so lifty) kites.

In mirroring your thoughts about equipment being important, jumping with a Blade or CF in anything over about 12-mph means you'll be airborne

We get air on the ACE's, but it takes more timing and technique, where-as the Blade will take you for a ride with or without your agreement :wow:

If it's windy, we're probably there.

how high should a 4m blade lift me? (11st) in at least 15mph wind
i think there is something wrong with mine.

Wolfe, count me in. I'm usually doing the thing on the weekends, so I'll make it a point to swing by to see if you guys are out. I'd also like to make sure I'm doing this right, as I've pretty much schooled myself on YouTube vids and reading forums.

I'd also love to see that Blade in flight to see if it's all it's cracked up to be.

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Originally posted by feral how high should a 4m blade lift me? (11st) in at least 15mph wind i think there is something wrong with mine.

It's hard to say if something is wrong without more details. Is this a Blade IV with an adjustable bridle, and is it set for high AoA (lift) mode?

With low wind speeds the only way to get air is timing and technique, and even then it's only a few feet of air. Are you doing pendulum jumps? Here's a good animation showing the process:

http://chris.m.whittaker.googlepages.com/pendulumjump.swf

In higher winds (as the wind doubles the pull cubes) much higher jumps are possible, but without the last re-direct to set you down gently a 4m isn't as floaty as the larger kites and you could get slammed. Be careful

Now here is your problem. A 4m kite isn't going to do a ton of lifting at 15mph. A 4m isn't a good kite to learn to jump at all !!! That little thing will lift you in bigger winds but it won't float you very well !Do you understand how to jump and more important how to redirect the kite so you don't go crashing down ?

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Originally posted by feral how high should a 4m blade lift me? (11st) in at least 15mph wind i think there is something wrong with mine.

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Originally posted by feral how high should a 4m blade lift me? (11st) in at least 15mph wind i think there is something wrong with mine.

Here is the video that I think helped me put it all together.

you tube link

We had (4) kites up today at Thude Park in the 12-14 mph winds, and (3) yesterday. But that's probably it for the good wind days until the next front passes through.

We just took out the Blade IV 4.9 today and passed it back and forth, since we could only go 10-15 mins before pure exhaustion set in. We had many 4-5 foot jumps, and I had one 6 footer when I redirected right when a gust came through. It was floaty though, and made my day :D

NICE! It was windy as hell today out in Queen Creek, but by the time I got home and broke out the Ace, it had died down to 5-10 mph, which isn't exactly jumping winds.

Give a shout the next time you guys head out, Wolfe. I sent you a U2U with my contact info.