12get12
Junior Member
Posts: 28
Registered: 30-4-2008
Location: East Bay, NorCal
Member Is Offline
|
|
Depower Bar vs. Handles
Which is easier to ride with, Depower Bar or Handles?
Most of the kite landboarders in my area uses handles but I start to see more new riders using depower Bar.
Is it easier for a beginner to learn using a bar or handles?
Kites will be 4 line power kites.
Kite Landboarding Gear:
Pansh... Yeah it\'s cheap but I\'m happy with it!.
Pansh Blue and Yellow Ace 2.5M
Pansh Black and Red Ace 3.5M
Pansh Black and Red Ace 5M
MBS Comp 16 ---- (SOLD)
MBS Comp 95 ---- (I love this board)
BLOKART W/3M SAIL
|
|
kiteNH
Senior Member
Posts: 708
Registered: 28-10-2007
Location: Seacoast, NH
Member Is Offline
|
|
I'm not sure there is a correct answer to this question, but I have more practice and experience flying on handles and therefore have felt more
comfortable using them on the board. I'm dying to get out and get some practice with the depower also though and think that in the long run I'll
prefer boarding with depower. I think the "pros" landboard on depower almost exclusively if that tells you anything.
|
|
12get12
Junior Member
Posts: 28
Registered: 30-4-2008
Location: East Bay, NorCal
Member Is Offline
|
|
I agree with you that most of the pro's uses depower.
Most crazy jumps on youtube also uses a bar versus handles.
Kite Landboarding Gear:
Pansh... Yeah it\'s cheap but I\'m happy with it!.
Pansh Blue and Yellow Ace 2.5M
Pansh Black and Red Ace 3.5M
Pansh Black and Red Ace 5M
MBS Comp 16 ---- (SOLD)
MBS Comp 95 ---- (I love this board)
BLOKART W/3M SAIL
|
|
awindofchange
Posting Freak
Posts: 1945
Registered: 14-3-2006
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Member Is Offline
Mood: Awesome - totally awesome
|
|
I fly both styles, fixed bridle on handles and depower on a bar. It really depends on what you are wanting to do with your riding as to which one is
better. I can list a couple of pros/cons that I have experienced and hopefully it will help.
Fixed bridle kite on Handles:
Easier to control the kite, turns are much faster and more precise. Kite size is usually much smaller and the kites fly in less wind. They are much
more efficient in the air. Slightly easier setup. You can find tune the brake lines during flight by adjusting the position of your handles.
For buggies, this is the preferred method as you can rip the kite around pretty much anywhere in the wind window and still be under complete control.
You can spin the kite faster without the huge swooping downstroke of power. Fixed bridle kites usually have less lift than depower kites so you have
less chance of getting yanked up out of the buggy.
Fixed Bridle on a bar:
Kite turns much slower and has large swooping turns through the window. Launching is usually a bit harder than with handles. Harder to get your
brake lines adjusted during flight, usually you get it set once and then leave it. Kite usually flies slower and the feel is less responsive. Kite
has a mushy feeling unless flown in really strong wind. It is a bit harder to keep the kite powered up in light winds. The bar does give you a lot
more freedom with the ground board in that you can rotate your upper torso easier because you can fly the kite with one hand, letting the other drop
back behind you for easier upwind riding and also much easier toe-side riding. The harness can be connected to your waist / pelvic area so your
center of gravity is much lower. This allows you to direct the power easier into your legs/board and pulls less on your shoulders. The bar offers
better safety disconnect setups and a leash. It is also easier to control your kite while you manipulate your board/harness/etc with your free hand
for setup. The kite is also less twitchy and usually more forgiving during flight. Less chance of accidentally driving the kite into the ground if
you take your eyes off of it.
Depower on Bar (handles not recommended):
Depower gives you the most lift/hangtime over fixed bridle kites. They also have larger wind ranges in which they can be flown in. They excel in
gusty conditions, allowing you to adjust your power instantly on the fly. They have the same advantages as fixed bridle on a bar but usually take
more wind to fly than a fixed bridle kite of the same size. They generally are slower in turns than fixed bridle kites but can be flown quite
aggressively when they are flown in their optimum wind range. Usually one depower kite will cover the same wind range as 2 or 3 fixed bridle kites.
The safety release systems on depower kites are awesome. The Re-ride system developed by Ozone and now used on basically every depowerable land kite
allows you to kill the kite completely while leaving the bar attached to you. This pretty much eliminates the tangled mess you use to get when
activating your safety. Depower kites cost quite a bit more per kite than fixed bridle kites but they usually come complete ready to fly with
matching bar setup and lines. Depower is usually the preferred kite with aggressive landboarders and snow kiting.
Hope that helps some.
Let us know if you have any other questions.
|
|
12get12
Junior Member
Posts: 28
Registered: 30-4-2008
Location: East Bay, NorCal
Member Is Offline
|
|
That's exactly the information I was looking for.
Thanks a bunch!
Someday I'll get me a depower Kite on Bar... someday...
Kite Landboarding Gear:
Pansh... Yeah it\'s cheap but I\'m happy with it!.
Pansh Blue and Yellow Ace 2.5M
Pansh Black and Red Ace 3.5M
Pansh Black and Red Ace 5M
MBS Comp 16 ---- (SOLD)
MBS Comp 95 ---- (I love this board)
BLOKART W/3M SAIL
|
|
ikemiester
Member
Posts: 408
Registered: 7-7-2008
Location: The Emerald Coast of Florida
Member Is Offline
Mood: SPEED 3 19M!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
on the ozone frenzy 06 that I fly they have also seriously increased turning speed by adding a second smaller pulley on the bottom of the kite this
way it's almost like flying with handles in that it pulls the break on the side u r turning although I constantly getting the sand out of this small
pulley it seems to be a very useful feature
Kiteboarding Team Rider
http://www.cleanlinesurf.com/
Looking For:
cheap old c kites in good shape
What I Fly:
Flysurfer Speed 3 19m, Switch Legacy2 12 and 9m, Radsail Sport 5m, HQ Beamer 1.8m
What I Ride:
mbs core 90, Cabrinha Rival 145, Cabrinha Ace 133
Go big or go home!
1920 Club
https://www.youtube.com/user/rydmiester
Established 1992, Flying multi-lines since 2001
|
|
Reckless
Junior Member
Posts: 40
Registered: 16-1-2008
Location: London
Member Is Offline
Mood: Always happy
|
|
Excellent review awindofchange
Flies:
Flexifoil Blade III 4.9m
Flexifoil Storm II 12m
Best Bularoo \'07 10m, \'08 16m
Rides:
Bang Bowmoque 136 Kite Board
MBS Comp 90 ATB
Burton - Jussi Oksanen 158 Snow Board
Wears:
Mystic Fire Strart waist harness
|
|