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thumbup.gif posted on 31-8-2008 at 03:32 PM
I gotta give props for Inland Kiters


Ok I dunno how ya people who live inland handle it and can stay calm when flying ya kites LOL. I live in Mass about 1hr from Cape Cod so I can basically see the ocean from my house..nice clean winds. I had my Montana out today and it was forcast 14mph winds...So i am out the door to my usual spot. GUSTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I am not use to gusty, it's rare here. except for winter!!!!!!!!!! Montana hates GUSTY!!!! anywhere from 8mph to 17mph. So stressful the kite just kept falling outta the sky. Wind Shifting like crazy. spent about 3hrs waiting for wind to calm down, every now and then testing out the wind and getting yanked in the air and dropping me like a rock..I was like $@#$! THIS!!!!!. Very discouraging LOL ....So ya people in them square states I Bow to you :D Lets see what happens tomorrow forcast 14mph winds. NNW <-----hate this direction at my spot



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[*] posted on 31-8-2008 at 03:54 PM


try and Access, it's lighter and less likely to fall out of the sky,,,really the Montana doesn't compare to Access XC

very superior kite and easier to have fun with!:karate:



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[*] posted on 31-8-2008 at 04:12 PM


thanks Eli but the Access is mostly a cruising kite no? I like to jump



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[*] posted on 31-8-2008 at 04:29 PM


I am in the squariest state of them all :D Does that mean I have the worst wind? :(



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[*] posted on 31-8-2008 at 04:53 PM


access is a cruiser, but in the right wind it'll jump...

frenzy fx and manta II jump well...I've seen montanas drop out of the sky, so i understand what you are saying.

How many kites do you have, do you have a fixed line to try in those winds...have you tried tying figure 8 knots in the outside bridles on the steering system...sometime adding some breaks helps, ???

if the gusts are frequently and steep it'll be a challenge to fly!

I like the 8m access in storms here, it's got enough to jump safely, I've riden it on the water too, went its too strong for my smallest LEI



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[*] posted on 31-8-2008 at 05:49 PM


Ya Eli the Gusts were STEEEP and frequent . Winds i am not accustomed to normally. these were 8mph gusting 17mph so not enough time to even think. I have been thinking of a Frenzy for quite some time now. I don't have a fixed bridle as i have sold it. working on getting some more kites. But it clearly wasn't a good day for flying, single line kiters were having issues. the only people who were clueless to the wind condtions were 2 guys I always see at the park and hang with them, they had there vented Revs out. :bisou:



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[*] posted on 31-8-2008 at 06:43 PM


Today was rough. I went out for about an hour today but 5 minutes after I set up along came a group of football players and they seemed determined to keep pushing the play towards me. Between the crazy gusts and foul-mouthed football players, today was not the best at all.

I feel for you dgkid as I was out too.



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[*] posted on 31-8-2008 at 06:50 PM


yeah vented revs can fly in 45+

when paragliding we messure the frequency and rate of change...in the wind changes too quickly and frequently, we don't fly, it's ok to fly in gusty, just gotta respect your ability..

good job on knowing when NOT TO FLY



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[*] posted on 31-8-2008 at 07:35 PM


montana 2 and gusty wind is terrible. I sold mine because it was so unstable. My bigger fixed bridle crossfire 6.3 was safer to fly then that one.



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[*] posted on 31-8-2008 at 07:47 PM


I hear ya Bloah. Montana 2 and too gusty=disaster but seeing as we don't get too many days like this i have only had this problem once or twice before, so not enough to give up on her just yet. I need a bigger quiver so i can make sure that i have a kite for whatever mother nature throws at me. :yes: I need $$$ .Oh I would like to take the opportunity now to Hijack my Own thread LOL Full Face helmets for landboarding?? thoughts? opinions? I see some buggiers use them and i like the look. what ya guys think? :tumble:



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[*] posted on 31-8-2008 at 08:00 PM


I took out my Pulse2 6m today. I was flying inland too. I started around 1:30 pm when wind was at 19 mph gusting to 26 mph. It was brutal. The park I was flying in is notorious for changing direction. Needless to say, I was at the edge of the wind window to better control the kite. Kite and I managed. I brought the kite down to test the FDS and it worked like a charm but kite rolled around and bridals got tangled. I had to undo the big mess. Kite goes up again, stays up and then it falls out of sky. This happened a few times. When the kite did stay up, it pulled a lot. I had the yellow strap pulled all the way to keep the kite fully depowered.

I need to find out more about P2 6m's abilities in gusty condition. It was disheartening to see the kite drop like it did from the sky. What can I do to keep the kite in the air? Powerzone? Domdino?
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[*] posted on 31-8-2008 at 09:06 PM


I gotta move to the coast. Gonna start scouting for a move soon, but need to get the cash up. Once you fly in coastal wind, it just gets harder and harder to go down to the local park.



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[*] posted on 1-9-2008 at 10:23 AM


just remember inland landboarders that I believe you can go on longer upwind runs where as we on the beach have to constantly be doing a zigzag. Just look at the positives:tumble:




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[*] posted on 1-9-2008 at 11:49 AM


I was at the beach Saturday and the upwind tacks were horrible. It took me 20 minutes to get back from where I started less than 5 minutes prior! But the last couple times it was a piece of cake on the beach. Well... the winds blowin today, I thgink I gotta get out there. Hope y'all are havin fun.



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[*] posted on 1-9-2008 at 12:41 PM


Hey, I'm an inland flyer...I'll take those props ;)....

Gotta say, nothing compares to smooth coastal breezes. Once a week for me at the beach other than that, I'm at my local gusty inland park/dirt patch. But the last few months have been pretty consistent and not really too bad. Loving it....

One plus for us gusty inland flyers...I think it makes us better kiters. If you can fly here you can fly anywhere :thumbup:



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[*] posted on 8-9-2008 at 10:12 AM


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Originally posted by lunchbox
Hey, I'm an inland flyer...I'll take those props ;)....

Gotta say, nothing compares to smooth coastal breezes. Once a week for me at the beach other than that, I'm at my local gusty inland park/dirt patch. But the last few months have been pretty consistent and not really too bad. Loving it....

One plus for us gusty inland flyers...I think it makes us better kiters. If you can fly here you can fly anywhere :thumbup:


You nailed it Lunchbox. Flying in inland gusty conditions will do nothing, but improve your skills over those that just fly in smooth beach conditions. Flying inland is something that takes time to get good at as you have to be able to anticipate the gust cycle. It can be done and I fly with only race kites inland and where I live I would have to say our gust cycles are usually greater than anywhere else in the country so it can be done and can be enjoyable. If you can master the gusty conditions you can master anything in a buggy in my oppinion.

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[*] posted on 8-9-2008 at 07:09 PM


I find the closed cells on my 7m Pulse are a real advantage. When the kite does fall away in a lull or a botched turn it holds it's shape. Avoiding collapsing in on itself. This makes recovery a lot more likely. Even When I completely lose it and we have touch down my odds of a quick recovery are huge with it still holding air combined with it's desire to get back in to shape.

In a gust you can feel and here it hit but it is mostly absorbed by the time you get over the initial shock.

Me like my 7m Pulse in junky winds :smilegrin:



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[*] posted on 8-9-2008 at 10:28 PM


Yeah, I liked my Pulse for the gusty stuff as well. Unfortunately, for me, our average winds were too light for a depowerable.

I'm on the mid high aspect ratio - Race kites as well trying to milk anything I can get out of the winds here.

Consistently making those buggy transitions in light winds with the high aspect kites in junky air is not easy...



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