Why don't all depower kites use a leashless safety system like the Ozone snowkite bar? That system works really well, and takes me like a minute to get up and riding again, Vs like...5 on my PL Bomba. I see no reason why it wouldn't work on all depower kites?


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You don't know FDS

HQ uses leashless safety. But sloppy flying can leave you un-hooked....

I was teasing you with the FDS thing Nick !

FDS is a great way to go IMHO. Fast easy recovery. If you haven't seen how it works you should check it out ! It's sort of a 5th line that holds a center set of bridles. The wings just taco back. The bar is just a short way away so quick recovery is possible.

I like having a leash. My flying is sloppy enough I sometimes lose my connection at the chicken loop.

Not to mention flying unhooked...

Could I fly my Arcs on my Ozone snowkite bar? Maybe the 11m?

I us tried this yesterday on a 5-line bare. It seems the Y powerlines makes the kite very unstable. It would collapse with it gained speed.

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Originally posted by Baluk I us tried this yesterday on a 5-line bare. It seems the Y powerlines makes the kite very unstable. It would collapse with it gained speed.

Mark, were you asleep when you typed this? I can't quite make out what you are saying. :shocked2:

Hahah.

I Just woke up, it was 5 am or so! Sheesh, here is what I meant to say:


I just tried my Phantom on my 5-line bar. It seems the Y-powerlines that split out make the kite super unstable. It collapsed whenever it gained any speed and was just flopping all over the place.

Better?!

One thing to remember with the Peter Lynn's is that they are designed to flag out when the safety is applied. If you drop the center lines out of the kite (like the re-ride system used on Ozone) you will put a tremendous load on the brake lines which could rip them from the kite. Also, the kite will not flag out and could still retain some power which could be very dangerous as the top lines are now loose because you will not have any control of the kite.

Also, we have tried to bridle PL kites in the past. They do get a big increase in power but you lose the stability and gust absorption qualities. Also, if you happen to crash the kite when it is bridled you put extreme stresses on the sail where they are not designed and can burst the kite easier.

I don't recommend that you use the re-ride system on a Peter Lynn kite. The safety on these kites is one of the best in the industry and once deployed you get nearly zero pull from the kite and it is nearly impossible for the kite to re-power up on you...which is what a safety system should do. Usually when you pull the safety on a Peter Lynn in the first place you don't want the kite to go back in the air!

I used a fifth-line just up to one of the powers. I didn't test it, but i presume it would work just fine and maybe less of a mess.

Kent -

Sorry for being off topic, but do you have a preference for whether Arcs flag to a front or rear line? My GII 9 is on a bar with a leash flagging the left rear. I've seen it set up both ways, but haven't used a front line safety. Thanks,

Normally the front lines are the ones you will want to flag out to. On the G1's, the rear pigtails weren't sewn in that strong and we did have some of those tear out when the safety was released under major loads. The GII's are a lot stronger but I would still recommend the front lines. Seems that the kite spins less with the front line release but if your set up for rear and haven't had any problems then you are probably fine.

Most of the time (and on the '04 and zero7 PL control bars) we use a dual ring release system on the front lines right above the adjuster strap. One ring hooked to the adjuster strap and is stationary, the flying line runs through that ring and attaches firmly to a second ring of the same size. Then hook your leash to the same (second) ring. When the chicken is deployed the flying line slides through the ring attached to the power strap, flagging out the kite. When flying normal both rings pull together tight.

Hope that helps.