Is it possible to fly a Crossfire kite with depower bar? I have a waroo bar and lines that I'd like to rig to a Crossfire 2.4 or maybe a Beamer 3 for a beach kite. Resdarch suggests that some people have done this but other research says that it can't without significant modifications. Is it necessary to have a depower kite for use with a depower bar?

Current fixed bridle HQ products have a crossover bar which applies some brake to the same side you are turning on. It is a different setup than a depower bar.

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Originally posted by kitetim Is it possible to fly a Crossfire kite with depower bar? I have a waroo bar and lines that I'd like to rig to a Crossfire 2.4 or maybe a Beamer 3 for a beach kite. Resdarch suggests that some people have done this but other research says that it can't without significant modifications. Is it necessary to have a depower kite for use with a depower bar?

Not recommended for a few reasons.
If you wanted to fly the kite on a standard control bar and want to use the Waroo bar just because you have it, then connect the front lines to the bar ends and put the brakes to the middle (backwards from de-power). But would have to take off the center strap adjustment because it is too heavy and you would have to add a pulley to provide brake inputs. By the time you are done, you might as well get a regular control bar.

Oh, and don't try to hook in with it like that- it would be a mess.

Anyway, the Crossfire is not at all well suited for a control bar due to the brake inputs needed that normally come from handles. You could do it if you know how to trim the kite, but you would loose a lot.

You can convert some fixed bridle kites to de-power by splitting the bridles and adding a mixer, but kite of the size you mention would not support the weight well. Smaller de-powers start at 5-7m and even then need 11-14 mph at the low end to be happy.

I have tried the Crossfire on a bar... the 3.2, and it didnt work at all really. It never got more than about 5 feet off the ground. After than try, I gave up. Handles have better control, anyway.