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handles vs bar (fixed bridle foils)
this may help new flyers decide using the data.........let em know what you use, and why
17m Ozone Zephyr (2012)
15m Flysurfer Silver Arrow 2
12m Ozone Catalyst (2013)
10m Ozone Catalyst (2012)
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Wainman Joke & Demitri Pro
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Baluk
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What if we use both equally¿
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speleopower
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If your doing a handles verses bar fight. I think handles will win. If I fight someone with 2 handles I will win because I can hit 2 times and get in
close where the bar won't do any good. :tumble:
I'm feeling silly and whacky with the pain killers in me right now.:wee:
Probably most people that know how to fly with handles fly both bars and handles. Those that don't know how to use handles will only fly with a bar.
Learn with handles and you can fly either bars or handles. Learn on a bar and your stuck.
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tridude
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I added the depower comment Mark so your vote could change...............................
17m Ozone Zephyr (2012)
15m Flysurfer Silver Arrow 2
12m Ozone Catalyst (2013)
10m Ozone Catalyst (2012)
MTH Colonel Reb customs 160x45 carbon, 141x43 wood
Wainman Joke & Demitri Pro
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Baluk
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Touché. I have a bar for my Beamer but haven't used it in the longest time. Handles for fixed-bridle all the way!
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tridude
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I tried a B3 8.5 and 5m Ozone Samurai on bars and quickly went back to handles. Again personal preference but just getting into the activity, handles
and safety equipment.................
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15m Flysurfer Silver Arrow 2
12m Ozone Catalyst (2013)
10m Ozone Catalyst (2012)
MTH Colonel Reb customs 160x45 carbon, 141x43 wood
Wainman Joke & Demitri Pro
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6' Davo Fish
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KiteProject
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Handles on fixed bridals.
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kiteNH
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Handles for static flying 100% of the time. I'd use a bar only in really nice smooth winds for cruising.
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Bladerunner
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That is a tough call ?
I agree that you get more control using handles but using a bar has it's own appeal. More so if you are on the right kite , with the right ride.
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Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
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Handles on fixed bridals also
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When flying my fixed bridles I normally just larkshead the power lines to my index finger and the brakes on my pinky. That allows me to really feel
the lines and tweak them ever so slightly when needed. Bars and handles are for panzies :moon:
When my fingers get too tired though, I go right for my handles
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speleopower
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We've tried that before-nearly took a finger off. Didn't work out so well
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7\'3\" Hana Crew custom
6\'6\" Hana Crew custom-on Saipan
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handles. Gotta goose those brakes in light winds. I fly Peter Lynn Reactors a lot; a little tug on the brakes gives a nice surge.
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I fly a homemade crossover bar on my 8m Ace, I do indeed feel the loss of control, but in 5 mins I forget and it feels like I'm flying one of my
depowers, on ocasion I'll forget and pull the bar in lol. I like to be able to run with one hand and drag my fingertips through the snow/grass
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handles (buggy or board) ... more control, more kite feel.
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handles way more control , much faster turns and brakes are almost instant with the ability to control power like a light switch
when you have the right size of kite for the wind range
and a kite on handles stropped is so smooth an effortless when dialed in.
flown both depower and stropped
stropped wins hands down (but gotta luv that throttle feel from depower)
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I did forget about that, buggy is handles every time, but board, skis, blades, anything but a buggy I guess...is a bar for sure
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P3 Prism Stylus
3m Goflyakite Foil
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14m Naish Boxer
17m Peter Lynn Bomba
Kitewing (Homemade)
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Notice: This poll was down for a day and has been restored with votes intact. If you've not voted, you may do so now.
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ragden
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I have both fixed bridle kites on handles and de-power kites on bars. Lately, I've been flying my de-powers more than my fixed bridle kites. Just
personal preference. You get a lot more control out of handles, no doubt, but I really like parking the bar and pulling it in for that throttle
control.
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tridude
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I added a comment to the header for fixed bridle foils only.......this data can be sourced by new flyers whether to purchase handles or a
bar.....................sorry for the confusion.....
17m Ozone Zephyr (2012)
15m Flysurfer Silver Arrow 2
12m Ozone Catalyst (2013)
10m Ozone Catalyst (2012)
MTH Colonel Reb customs 160x45 carbon, 141x43 wood
Wainman Joke & Demitri Pro
11'6 Naish Nalu
6' Davo Fish
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ragden
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Oh.. well.. since you said that, if the kite isnt a de-power, I wouldnt dream of flying it on a bar. Gotta stick to the handles.
Flysurfer Speed 3 15m DELUXE
Flysurfer Speed 3 12m
Flysurfer Psycho4 8m
Peter Lynn Buggy
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Spleene (Monster) Door 164x50 (for sale?)
FlyDoor XL (2013)
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Bladerunner
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I put my vote in for a bar.
NOT because it's that much better but that I'm always behind the underdog !
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
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Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
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USA_Eli_A
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Two line foils like 1.5-3m in way too much wind is nice.
Handles on Race kites for obvious reasons.
I'd like to try my 5m Haka on a fixed bar in 20mph nw at sunset beach, I think it'd be stupid fun, even on the water.
I'm 60/40 for handles because I race buggies. I prefer bar on a kgb aka: kitelandboarding
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arkay
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I started on the depower bar, and have some handles and a bar for my fixed. I like the handles better for fixed on a buggy, much better control. But
it's a good workout, so when I'm lazy I prefer to use a bar and harness; plus you can have a free hand for a beer! Still haven't gotten user to the
stop completely.
For skudding I like a bar seat harness since it pulls below my center of gravity... It's more like a swing than a superman
But at least for me handles on a board absolutely sucks Handles are way to far
above my center of gravity. I'd rather have a crossover bar with safety release and a harness on boards.
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