so, in the future im thinking of either moving onto buggying, or land boarding.

i think i will go with boarding, as it cheaper, and easier to travel/transport equiptment.

i was wondering if people could tell me a good begginer "starter kit" that would set me off in thr sport, while not completely breaking the bank..

this would include, (i assume, there may be more)

-large ish de power kite
-harness
-board

thanks, tim.

you dont need a depower to landboard... ive seen plenty of videos with people tearing it up on handles!

As far as board and harness.... look over in the for sale, or put a wanted list in your sig... this place has the best deals out there on virtually everything you need... i easily saved 60% on my board and harness just from buying them from a couple of guys on these forums!

Get a feel for your kite, then get a feel for your kite and your board, then switch to a depower when you got all that down to spice it up!

If your hell bent on a depower... apex by hq is an entry level... actually just check mougl's post on this same topic... lots of info there on depowers

Entry Level Depower

The board certainly is much easier to transport and pack

I just stared on the board recently and I've tried handles but I prefer the bar. The kite doesn't need to be a depower, but from my limited experience I'd recommend a bar. I've seen a bunch of people flying 3-4m beamers and imps on bars with boards. Some 3 line kites you can buy with a bar, other 4-line kites you will need a crossover bar. If you just want to get started, I'd probably go 3 line or cheap depower.

If you go the handle you won't require a harness, unless you want to use a captive system which seems hella dangerous on a board to me 3 lines kites seem to be a mix of needing a harness for the larger kites and jsut having a writes strap on smaller kites. A depower requires a harness, you can technically ride it unhooked but I wouldn't recommend that when learning

If you're going on the cheap and a depower an RTF blazeII would work... I seem to keep going to that on my board. As discussed many times on this forum... I think the consensus is that they are adequate for someone wanting to spend very little but you need to realize that they won't last as long as a better brand. If you ask the reputable seller to make sure the kite is tuned you'll be happier from the start.

You should be fully passed out, but you'll NEED a helmet (rated for land use) and knee pads. You should get elbow pads and write guards but that seems to be a personal preference or hate.

Oh you, and a board :wee:

I'm very comfortable with the kite and I've snow/skate/boarded before. I was surprised how natural the landboard was as a progression; I was on my toe side first session, albeit going 8 mph. Whatever you do, I'd suggest getting VERY comfortable with the kite so that you don't need to worry about multiple things, where the kite is, what you are doing on the board, and where you are going...

so far the easiest combination i like

1x mbs board
1x 15m PL Arc
1x helment
1x knee pads
1x harness

that will get you going from 8knots (cruising) to about 22knots + (trim strap 80% in, and kite straps pulled half way)

depower is optional, FB kites work great too. probably something in the 7m for the big jumpers and 5m for the cruisers.

We have a couple packages. The kites are not depower but work great for someone looking to start out in the sport...and the entire package can be purchased for about the same as a high dollar depowerable kite costs.

http://www.awindofchange.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&am...

Hope that helps.

thanks for the info guys.

I am a firm believer in buying a slightly older model that was the " must have " kite etc. the year or 2 before if money is a concern.

It is true you can use a fixed bridle and no harness. You give up wind range and comfort / fly time in turn.

Some kites are almost a single kite quiver. My 7m Pulse is an example. Somethng between 7 and 10m in a Depower. Depending on your wind. A 13 - 16m arc .

Keep an eye on the For sale section and get a feel for what is good. DON'T RUSH your purchase !

thanks for the help bladerunner.

how much do 7m pulses go for 2nd hand do you know ?

tim.

there is an 8m outlaw (maybe a 6m?) from powerzone )member of this forum) for sale on the forum right now..... 650 is a good price on it, too..... its basically an open cell version of the pulse

cant really use it on water, but you can for landboarding... either way, its agood way to get into depower

thanks for the heads up.

i wont be able to afford it at the mo, but i will bear it in mind if its still up for sale when i do start looking to actually buy

The Pulse price is dropping. There is a ton of arcs out there and they resell at some real good prices as well.

It looks like $400 - 450 will get you a good quality slightly older kite complete with bar and lines. Some kites with repairs can even go cheaper.

That is a good deal on the outlaw but they are still sort of , 1st generation so the resell value is still high.

I like Rip's suggested list. I would add that you consider a seat harness. It gives you the ability to "sit" back into the harness and lower your center of gravity in stronger winds or gust.

I started with a 3m fixed bridle and incurred a great deal of frustration.....wind too strong, wind too light.....wind too gusty.... I'm sure a larger sail would improve the wind range but there is still the issue of gusts and the pull being at a higher level through your arms and upper body.

De-power cured a lot of these ills. The 8m NEO was the first. Nice de-power but still problems with gusts. The ARC's have cured the gust issues. You can certainly still get yarded using any depower but there is sooooo much more control over the power and the speed, and thus, handling.

This all equates to quicker learning and more fun!

m