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[*] posted on 12-9-2016 at 06:14 PM


At 15kts you are at the top of the range depending on your skill. The 12m is controllable and will depower very well in those wind speeds, but if you make a mistake,
things can happen that you might not have the skill to manage. 12m at 15kts can generate immense power. The 6m at that wind speed has plenty of power and control. You would find that the 6m fully powered would be a pleasure vs. sailing on the edge perhaps in danger with the twelve. At its normal wind range the 12 is pretty much a #@%$#!cat so work your way up cautiously in wind strength.
Remember : when you double the wind speed, the wind pressure quadruples!




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[*] posted on 12-9-2016 at 06:18 PM


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[*] posted on 12-9-2016 at 06:28 PM


Quote: Originally posted by TEDWESLEY  

Remember : when you double the wind speed, the wind pressure quadruples!


I didn't know that, but it certainly fits with what I've experienced.
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[*] posted on 12-9-2016 at 08:17 PM


static fly low wind peak2 12 meter porn
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[*] posted on 12-9-2016 at 09:05 PM


Chicken, your video is private



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[*] posted on 13-9-2016 at 05:24 AM


I think I set it right now. new to the youtubes. and film editing.



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[*] posted on 13-9-2016 at 05:59 AM


GUMBY ROCKS!
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[*] posted on 13-9-2016 at 06:07 AM


Quote: Originally posted by CHICKENKOOP  
static fly low wind peak2 12 meter porn
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Outstanding! Agreed that Gumby adds just the right element.

Consider installing a brakeline cross strap. You might have been able to reverse launch at the end with one. It doesn't take any more wind to reverse launch with that beauty than traditional nose-up launching. I got all of my Peaks from feyd at Hardwater and he sells the cross strap on his site.



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[*] posted on 13-9-2016 at 01:13 PM


not gonna get reverse launch out of that clover field in that wind. the clover is like Velcro on the bridles. kite needs to be put on back nice and pretty before it will get a clean launch. the clover is above my knee in most places. the kite never touches the ground really.
I'm am kind of likening the lack of brake crossover. all my other kites came equipped and I am starting to wonder if I might remove from some of the others. they tangle, and don't wind up nice. I'm getting used to the under hand brake line grab move I use to back kite down or reverse launch.



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[*] posted on 13-9-2016 at 02:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by CHICKENKOOP  
not gonna get reverse launch out of that clover field in that wind. the clover is like Velcro on the bridles. kite needs to be put on back nice and pretty before it will get a clean launch. the clover is above my knee in most places. the kite never touches the ground really.
I'm am kind of likening the lack of brake crossover. all my other kites came equipped and I am starting to wonder if I might remove from some of the others. they tangle, and don't wind up nice. I'm getting used to the under hand brake line grab move I use to back kite down or reverse launch.


Trade offs to be sure. I too don't like how the cross strap screws up nice clean line winding. That being said, I use the cross strap on pretty much every session for some reason or the other and purposely installed one on each of my four Peaks (they came standard on my Ozone foils). I've further used the cross strap to keep the kite on the ground, throwing it over my buggy's back tire so I can walk up to the kite to secure it on the ground.

Cool field BTW. Deep clover has got to be beautiful and provide a great odor to boot. I can see how the clovers would grab at the bridle lines, particularly the four leaf ones. But hey, at least Peaks have minimal bridling (not!). :duh:



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[*] posted on 13-9-2016 at 04:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by CHICKENKOOP  
static fly low wind peak2 12 meter porn
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[*] posted on 19-10-2016 at 07:47 AM


Hey guys... so y'all may remember that I'm working with a friend shooting a video for a school project. We are scheduled to shoot this Friday again and I am thinking of using my 6m P1... Forecast is showing 18-20mph (a rarity in Atlanta) so I'm wondering if this is doable or if I should put up the 2.6m FB or the 4m NS3... would love input... I'm usually more confident, but I've only buggied with the Peak once or twice and not in this high wind. And I'm skiddish of the FB Kites since my injury.



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[*] posted on 19-10-2016 at 09:04 AM


That's the upper end of the factory spec'd range on the 6m. If you're totally dialed in on flying it and enjoy riding lit, I'd say go nuts. But if you feel that you will be flying it mostly in depower/flutter mode or you aren't comfortable being borderline OP'd, maybe another wing would be a better option. Learning to use it at the top end of it's range may not be the best material for video. Log some time in the saddle with the kite and work your way up in the wind range as you become more comfortable.




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[*] posted on 19-10-2016 at 09:14 AM


I agree with what Feyd.

IF it ends blowing as hard which a lot of times they don't exactly nail the forecast as you well know. Having experience with both the 4m nasa and 6m peak, I would feel more comfortable with the peak in 18-20 but I've never seen steady 18-20 conditions. Normally if my wind hits upper teens, it is almost always accompanied with gusts 25+ which I assume your wind is similar. Just depends on how the wind feels on the day to make a decision which kite. Bring them all.
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[*] posted on 19-10-2016 at 11:18 AM


Totally agree with the bit on the forecast... I'm hoping the forecast drops off a few MPH, cuz I really want to ride the Peak. If it turns out that it is showing that range, I'll reconsider the 2.6m Viper s.... luckily I'll be riding in my Stinger with its super tight rails to help hold me in.... we'll see what the day brings... just wanted some other recommendations.

Thanks guys.

edit: just checked the forecast and it has dropped off a little. Typical Atlanta fashion for winds around here... if continues to trend downward a little, I may be good with the peak.



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[*] posted on 20-10-2016 at 04:08 PM


Well, I've been watching the forecast and the average wind speed across 4 sources is 17.5mph... of course all of that could change significantly by tomorrow so here's hoping... I REALLY wanna ride the Peak tomorrow.



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[*] posted on 20-10-2016 at 08:24 PM


I wonder when the last time someone posted on here hoping the wind gods would make the wind blow less was... :P
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[*] posted on 20-10-2016 at 08:30 PM


:lol:

It's sure not regular for me!



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[*] posted on 21-10-2016 at 03:13 PM


Well it turned out to be a good fun day of riding with the Peak... it was kinda sketchy there for a bit but it all worked out ok. At one point a gust grabbed the kite and pulled out the ground stake so the guy running the camera jumped on the bar and grabbed it and got dragged about 10 feet while I was shouting at him to let go... :lol:... it was kinda awesome.

A lot of really high gusty wind probably into the mid high 20's, but the base wind kinda hung in the 14-17mph range which is a rarity in ATL, so I did have to be cautious a lot and take it slow. But man what a great kite!... I really felt relatively safe. Like you guys said, when the gusts hit you just let out the bar... but there was more than one occasion where I had to pop the safety... Randy came back out and had a good time riding his land board with a couple of his cool hand made kites.... over all it was a good day.

I'll post the video once the guys finish it up.



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[*] posted on 21-10-2016 at 05:00 PM


Cool...look forward to vid



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[*] posted on 22-10-2016 at 04:39 AM


Quote: Originally posted by soliver  
Well it turned out to be a good fun day of riding with the Peak... it was kinda sketchy there for a bit but it all worked out ok. At one point a gust grabbed the kite and pulled out the ground stake so the guy running the camera jumped on the bar and grabbed it and got dragged about 10 feet while I was shouting at him to let go... :lol:... it was kinda awesome.

A lot of really high gusty wind probably into the mid high 20's, but the base wind kinda hung in the 14-17mph range which is a rarity in ATL, so I did have to be cautious a lot and take it slow. But man what a great kite!... I really felt relatively safe. Like you guys said, when the gusts hit you just let out the bar... but there was more than one occasion where I had to pop the safety... Randy came back out and had a good time riding his land board with a couple of his cool hand made kites.... over all it was a good day.

I'll post the video once the guys finish it up.


That sounds like you had one of those "Toad's Wild Ride" sort of days - outstanding! Really looking forward to seeing the video. Great to see action on this Peak Fan Boy thread. :smilegrin:



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[*] posted on 22-10-2016 at 04:54 AM


That was a lot of fun - my first try at that spot. That Peak must have a lot of range - I was on 1.9 M kites and in some of the gusts I had to jump off the board. Here are the readings from nearby Dobbins AFB. BTW - this spot is right off of Windy Hill Road a fitting name yesterday.

21 Oct 4:58 pm 65 38 36 NNW 21 10.00 FEW050 1013.7 29.95 2
21 Oct 3:58 pm 66 38 36 NW 16G31 10.00 SCT050 1013.6 29.95 28.
21 Oct 2:58 pm 66 42 41 NW 17G23 10.00 BKN050 1013.6 29.95
21 Oct 1:58 pm 66 41 40 NW 23 10.00 BKN048 1013.6 29.95 2



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[*] posted on 28-10-2016 at 09:37 PM


I might have missed this somewhere, but has anyone tried a Peak2 bar/line set on a Peak1 kite? I think of these things when I'm bored:D



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[*] posted on 28-10-2016 at 10:02 PM


Someone did... I remember reading it, but unsure where.



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Quote: Originally posted by Cheddarhead  
I might have missed this somewhere, but has anyone tried a Peak2 bar/line set on a Peak1 kite? I think of these things when I'm bored:D


From what I've read about the P1s this sounds like a match made in single-skinned heaven. The P2 bar is a fine setup with the little red ball for setting the bar at a given DP position (ideal for long runs) and the trim strap. Said to be much better than the P1 bar. The thing is, I've heard nothing but GREAT things about the P1s with their lack to dreaded tip-tuck and a lower AR for even better stability. Of course, I love my 4m and especially my 12m P2s, sizes just not available in the original release.

Gotta figure there will be a P3 at some point. It will be interesting to see how these beauties evolve!



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[*] posted on 30-10-2016 at 07:05 AM


Please Santa bring me a 15m p3. I'll be a very good boy if you do



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[*] posted on 30-10-2016 at 07:31 AM


Quote: Originally posted by TEDWESLEY  
Please Santa bring me a 15m p3. I'll be a very good boy if you do


Great (read: obsessed) minds think alike! I was just talking with Chris Kruge the other day about my wish list should Flysurfer come out with a P3 and I too was talking up a 15m! Do you have some actual intel? I was just spouting off and now you go and mention it.

My favorite kite in my quiver remains Session Saver my 12m P2. Earlier this year at IBX I was out having a blast at about 10 AM one day and was the only person rolling for about an hour before the winds picked up above a breath. I was about 75% powered up and having a fine time. I would have been lit that day with 15m of Peak fury in the air. Bring it on! :frog:



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[*] posted on 30-10-2016 at 10:51 AM


If only I had the funds!



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[*] posted on 30-10-2016 at 03:25 PM


15 meter Peak? Now THAT would be the meaning of light wind depower! I would have to consider one of those if it came out. Long as the tip tuck wasn't a big issue.



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[*] posted on 1-11-2016 at 12:24 PM


I'll whisper this to you...... I'm getting a 15m Chrono V2. If they ever come out with a 15m P3 I'll be on the phone pretty quick.
Take a look at the WBB kite porn from Ines & Howar there are some beautiful photos to see.



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