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[*] posted on 27-6-2010 at 03:07 PM


The project looks great. And if she can flip letters or now just touch them. Vanna may be out of work!!



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[*] posted on 27-6-2010 at 04:11 PM


Roc, you just made my wife giggle, hah!
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[*] posted on 27-6-2010 at 04:20 PM


BB, I aint forgot ya , just been researchin laws ,ordinances,and such. I will start getting metal together tomorrow Bro. It is just hard to focus right now. The day I have been dreading is here, and it just makes me ill.



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[*] posted on 27-6-2010 at 04:23 PM


@WG- dude really sorry to hear about your issues, i was looking forward to flying there with you- But while you are working up BB's mast assembly can you make a duplicate one for me- assuming Ben doesnt mind me using his plans and of course assuming you would be willing to make two (u2u me what the costs would be)
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[*] posted on 27-6-2010 at 04:45 PM


WG - no rush my friend, you're doing me a huge favor by helping out so it's no problem at all. Does it all look do-able? reasonable? Also, if you want cash up front for material/time let me know and I'll send it your way.

flyguy - I definitely have no problem with others using the plans, if WG is willing to build extras. No guarantees it's a good design. I have no doubts about the construction, having seen WG's buggies, but I make no promises that the proportions/balance and what-not are correct. A lot of it is based on pictures of zooters on the web and educated guessing. Also the outside diameter of the mast base is for a specific extension, made by EPIC Gear, no idea if it will work with other extensions (probably would, but I can't say for sure). Feel free to shoot me a U2U and I'll pass on what I've figured out on the windsurfer equipment. You don't happen to have a xtra wide axle assembly on one of your buggies, cause I'd love one right now!
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[*] posted on 27-6-2010 at 04:55 PM


looks doable to me.As far as how it works. we will see . I do not see any obvious flaws, so it should be OK.

I'm sure there will be upgrades/mods , there always is.:D



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[*] posted on 27-6-2010 at 04:58 PM


Upgrades & Mods make my nerd blood flow :lol:
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[*] posted on 27-6-2010 at 05:08 PM


Scott, let's get 1 rig goin first ,then if it doesn't work so well we can make changes. Don't wanna make a pair of mistakes out the gate:o But ,I got no prob buildin ya one.
And I was thinkin' "grandview BUGgy smash.. I mean bash.:lol: might be in order.
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But I'm having trouble accepting the fact that some cousin of a freakin #@%$#!roach has more right to that beach than I do. Went and got me a gallon of ortho home defense today Hmmm....... I wonder if......:ninja:



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[*] posted on 27-6-2010 at 05:09 PM


That looks like a great project you got going here. Well planned and executed. Love to watch these builds come along. You may start a trend within the community for hybrid buggy's. Totally cool man, keep up the good work.



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[*] posted on 27-6-2010 at 08:24 PM


I agree it looks awesome, can't wait to see it at WW. That 5m sail looks very large for your given wheelbase, have you given much thought to gusts and such...? Superwide axle and some ballast maybe...? I'm no engineer just thinkin that's all... :cool2:



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[*] posted on 28-6-2010 at 03:35 AM


I'm looking for a wide axle for a Flexifoil buggy but I'm not having any luck. I'll see how this one handles and go from there. If necessary I'll upgrade to a larger buggy, maybe a PL bigfoot or something along those lines.
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[*] posted on 28-6-2010 at 04:11 AM


Well there is the one with wide axle and bigfoots in england for 300 euro. Plus about that in shipping too!!



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[*] posted on 28-6-2010 at 04:14 AM


OHHH you could also add to your order from Donnie and have him make you up a longer axle.



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[*] posted on 28-6-2010 at 05:32 AM


That would be problematic, as a flexi buggy is metric. And around here metric pipe is high dollar stuff that ya gotta special order. Nobody carries it in stock,that I can think of.



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[*] posted on 28-6-2010 at 06:27 AM


Could you fabricate one if I sacrificed my standard axle? Build off of the existing axle to get longer wheelbase and wider stance, but use the existing connections?
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[*] posted on 28-6-2010 at 06:36 AM


Hmmm........ I'll have to look into that before I can give ya an answer.



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[*] posted on 28-6-2010 at 07:04 AM


?- if you are welding, why does the axle have to be metric...? Can't you just use S.A.E bolts on the rear....? A little mix n match, but a small sacrifice I think... :dunno:



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[*] posted on 28-6-2010 at 08:46 AM


It all depends on how it goes together. I don't have any experience w/ production buggies,so I'm not familiar w/ how they are built.



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[*] posted on 28-6-2010 at 10:27 AM


One easy way to do it is walk away for a day. Take deep breath eat some lunch have a beer and then go back.
Being on the outside it is easy for us to add info. Like this. Use standard pipe, metric nuts welded into the ends and whala you have the right axle. Like I said, just an outside option.



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[*] posted on 28-6-2010 at 10:35 AM


McCarr/Master has metric pipe.



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[*] posted on 9-7-2010 at 02:49 PM


I wonder what it would look like w/ this on it.

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[*] posted on 9-7-2010 at 03:23 PM


Wow dude, that looks sweet! Can't thank you enough, can't wait to see it mounted on the buggy with a sail on top! Awesome!
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[*] posted on 9-7-2010 at 03:54 PM


If you can convince the seller to ship to the US, there is currently a wide-axle on KiteCrowd.

Will keep my eye out though for something stateside.

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[*] posted on 10-7-2010 at 05:59 AM


I will look into an axle after I finish the mast.:ninja:



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[*] posted on 15-7-2010 at 08:16 AM


@ben,
have you had a chance to try out the mast assembly WG made for you. I picked up some sails and masts this weekend and am curious to get WG to weld one up for me if it is working- craftsmanship looks awesome- but of course he is the Welding God:spin:
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[*] posted on 15-7-2010 at 08:59 AM


He just finished it off and I haven't actually got it yet, so I can't speak to the functionality and design. Can't wait to get it though, should be pretty sweet.

I'm curious, what size sails and mast did you end up getting? Did you get an extension yet?
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[*] posted on 15-7-2010 at 10:15 AM


two masts both 14 feet with adjustable mast stands"?" one is carbon the other is aluminum, came with six sails smallest is a 4.4 and largest is a 6.6 dont know what is in between yet. also got 3 booms and two boards a 10-8 and a 9-6 old slalom designs. I am hoping to figure it all out this weekend. I suspect that I will have some stuff to sell once i understand what i have. I basicily bought two complete setups with a bunch of extra stuff. I am going to make a diy zooter and also want to rig up something for my one man inflatable pontoon. Something to mess around with since my knee is still keeping me from kiting or doing much of anything. I noticed in your drawing that your mast extension tube is 1.66" i think that my masts are a lot fatter than that but dont know for sure will have to measure.
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[*] posted on 15-7-2010 at 10:25 AM


Hopefully WG will be able to get you sorted for an axle. They seems to have turned into hen's teeth.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the pond they quite literrally seem to be falling out of the trees. One went fairly recently and 2 more are still up for grabs here and here.

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[*] posted on 15-7-2010 at 10:26 AM


Yeah the masts are fatter than that at the base but with the pins and rivets in the extension the base has to be a lot thinner. I'm going to try and use the sleeve to fill the gap.

I'm looking for a 4.7 sail if you have an extra one in good shape I'll buy it from you. I have a 4.0 and a 5.5 right now but the 5.5 seemed a little big so I'm trying to track something down that falls in the middle. I also may end up using a windsurfing boom down the road if I can't get enough tension at the foot of the sail with the boom I have planned now.
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[*] posted on 15-7-2010 at 10:29 AM


@IW I'm bummed that the wide axles seem to have dried up in the states. I'll do some shakedown runs as is and if I need more stability I'll see what can be done about modifying the stock axle. WG is gonna have to start a waiting list. :-)
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