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[*] posted on 26-10-2010 at 06:34 AM


Bump

Did the Pansh race kite even make an appearance at WW?



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[*] posted on 26-10-2010 at 06:44 AM


the P-first 6.1 was a little big for the conditions so It didn't see much air time. WG will give it a test run soon.



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[*] posted on 26-10-2010 at 07:08 AM


Hi BladeRunner. All the kites were at Wildwood but due to most of the days being very tubulent wind over the buildings made it really impossible to spend too much time on any race kite. I got to fly both Pansh kites Wed. night after the rain stopped and I have to say I was pretty impressed. Was just a static fly for a few hours but the Flux was well mannered and very responsive. The First also flew very well and didn't feel like it had any bad manners. Unfortunately we all know that all of that changes once your moving on a bug/board and a kites true character comes out. What I can say is that the overall quality was impressive for Pansh. We checked them out in Don's room while waiting for the rain to stop and the bridles were nicely sewn. Either sleeved or unsleeved spectra. The sail was sewn well and overall I couldn't find any sloppyness anywhere,,,,and I'm generally pretty peticular. The only thing I could say that may be a downside was the fabric itself. It seemed quite soft and not "crispy" as with other manufacturers. I don't know anything about fabric though so I can't really say whether or not this is a good or a bad thing.

Overall I think if Pansh keeps up the quality that I saw in these two kites across everything they make then Pansh has become a viable alternative in the kiting world. There's room for Ford and Ferrari in the kiting world. I'll look forward to trying them out at future kite events.

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[*] posted on 26-10-2010 at 05:39 PM


Thank You Guru !

One has to give Pansh points for trying ! At least they aren't just sitting back selling the same old stuff because it moves.

I am curious. Is it possible that they are trying to use a new / lighter fabric on the race kite ? Are the new race kite and the Flux the same material? It seems like lighter material is the new, must do with the race kites.



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[*] posted on 26-10-2010 at 07:16 PM


BR, It seems to me to be similar to the Sprint material, it is softer and not crispy. And yes I think the flux and the First p2v are of the same material.



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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 03:55 PM


Stetson05, I sent it your way today priority mail . You should get it wed-thur. Cost less than 12 bucks to ship flat rate.



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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 04:38 PM


cool! Thanks



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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 04:42 PM


Not sure how long Stetson05 will test the kite before he sends it out but could we arrange the ordering so that I get it the week of Thanksgiving so I can bring to DBBB so everyone can try it there? You can move me farther down the list.



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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 05:20 PM


We don't really have much of a list so stetson05 can do his thing and send it to you next. When is the DBBB? I put it out at WWBB and a few people tried it out. Everyone is all into de-powers and arcs n whatnot,so it only saw a few flights.



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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 08:15 PM


DBBB is the thanksgiving week in Galveston. I usually take that entire week off from work so I'll try to be down there most of the time so anyone that comes to it can try it out.



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[*] posted on 3-11-2010 at 01:31 PM


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[*] posted on 3-11-2010 at 05:55 PM


Here is the video of me flying the pansh first 6.1at WWBB
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[*] posted on 4-11-2010 at 02:05 PM


I got the 6m Ace and I LOVE it.
Pansch is all i have used so ive really grown to liking them.



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[*] posted on 4-11-2010 at 04:30 PM


Good video WG !
Are those the new Pansh handles?
I'm sure it's not an issue if you are flying but it is hard to tell visually what is leading and trailing edge on that thing?
Pansh gets points for their choices in graphics ! Another kite that catches your eye when in the sky for sure.

What is the story on those bits at the end where you struggled?



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[*] posted on 4-11-2010 at 04:48 PM


No,on the handles BR,I made em'. And I was flying on just handles in wind everyone else was flying 2-4 m kites in.
I should not have had a racekite out in that lumpy offshore wind ,but the beach was empty so why not. I can tell you this, it's floaty.:lol:



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[*] posted on 6-11-2010 at 08:49 PM


I don't know if I have enough time on the board yet; but I'd like to try some Pansh with my buggy.

If not enough time; I have two ideas:

1.) I could pay a portion of getting another Pansh kite into the rotation.

2.) I could buy a group selected Pansh kite; try it out and then send it out to be on the list.

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[*] posted on 7-11-2010 at 06:18 AM


Hey Weldngod, no disrespect but it looked like you were not ready for this racekite (kite killers?) No harness, come on, you looked a little scared of it. I also noticed you had it way to high up in the window, it should be closer to the deck. The back stalling, you had to much brakes on it and thats why it spins so easy. Any race kite will do this if badly setup.Let the brakes out so you have just enough to land the kite. Once flying slide hands half way down the handles and thus pulling the brakes in, you will feel a totally different kite. By taking almost all the brakes off, the kite will be semi depowered, you will be able to fly a bigger size kite bigger winds and cut upwind faster than most. Try it next time you are out, you will see a different kite all together

ps. This is not an attack on your flying skills, merely some suggestions before the sensitive police jump on me

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[*] posted on 7-11-2010 at 06:40 AM


you fly your kite .....I'll fly mine... :wee:



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[*] posted on 7-11-2010 at 06:54 AM


lol...nough said



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[*] posted on 7-11-2010 at 06:57 AM


@kiteboyza, did Pansch take the First to WC this year? I don't recall seeing it in any of the pics I saw posted. If so, how did it do?



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[*] posted on 7-11-2010 at 10:17 AM


yes, only its called the team issue kite, one o the pilots finished 6th overall in the British team, Tommy Greirson. Different colours for the team we have all black with gold, all orange, all red mine all purple, all blue and a few other colours...

hope I'm not busting anybodys balls in this post :wee:



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[*] posted on 7-11-2010 at 01:47 PM


WOW . 6th over all is nothing to sneeze at.

I don't follow those standings but am once again impressed with Pansh's efforts.

I am pretty sure that WG was using the methods he was due to the winds coming over the buildings and off shore that day ? + Those East Coast people LOVE their killers in a way we don't get over here! ( also no offence meant )

Watching the Dutch fly at NABX a couple of years ago was a huge wake up call ! They fly the way you are describing. I was taught to fly with index finger above the top line. I just thought Rip' had a funny style ' cause he's smaller. NOW I have seen the light I still don't enjoy race kites but fly my other fixed bridles SOoo much better.

Folks on the East Coast can look to Kiteguru for an example of great handle control! IMHO.



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[*] posted on 17-11-2010 at 07:03 PM


I passed it to Van today. I only had one flyable day when I wasn't working but I forgot the lines and handles. Of course, after I shipped it off the wind was great today. Oh well, it should be available at the DBBB via van. Thanks for the opportunity



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[*] posted on 10-12-2010 at 06:55 PM


Any word van? Good / Bad kite? It was so good you are taking it apart and copying it? LOL I did see it in a video you posted . Looked like it was doin O.K. Let us hear how it went. Bobalooie was next on the list ,I do believe. WG



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[*] posted on 10-12-2010 at 08:21 PM


Its a great beginner kite. I actually used it to buggy and it did well in about 10mph wind. I even used it to landboard with the new Flexboardz. I actually made some comments on other post but forgot about this one. I can send it to the next person. I didn't hear from you so didn't know who was next. I figure if I didn't hear from anyone, I might keep it.. hehehe.. :lol:

My impressions:
1) great color .. gotta love the green and red in the sky
2) much better quality in fabric , sewing quality, and bridle .. looks like any of the top manufacturer
3) flies very smooth and much faster than my Pansh Legend.

A couple buddies of mine wanted to learn so I taught them using this kite. They liked it much better compare to the Legend. It was much more responsive.



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[*] posted on 10-12-2010 at 08:50 PM


van, sent U2U with info. @weldngod, I hope there won't be a problem with this kite seeing snow? I will treat it as my own, and carefully hang it to dry after a session with it.



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[*] posted on 12-12-2010 at 09:16 AM


Kite is all boxed up and ready to ship monday morning. I took it out again yesterday in 15-18mph wind and it was a blast. We flew it next to a HQ 4m Scout and HQ 3m beamer. The 4m Flux was the easiest to handle in those winds on an ATB. It flew much faster and closer to the edge of the window. The 3m Beamer was pulling me off the board at that wind speed but the Flux was behaving nicely.



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[*] posted on 12-12-2010 at 09:27 AM


I'm looking forward to getting some time with this kite on the snow with my snowboard, and your post sounds encouraging. Good to hear you had a good time on it, and thanks again to WELDNGOD for sponsoring this pass, and Pansh for providing the kite.



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[*] posted on 16-12-2010 at 11:30 AM


Received the Flux in yesterday's mail! I've only just opened the box and looked at it in it's bag, and already 1st thought is , what a beautiful green! Took it with on my circuit to check the sites, and of course there was little wind to go with the little snow. :sniff: Can't wait to try it out!



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[*] posted on 22-12-2010 at 11:14 PM


Met up with Van in Galveston while he had the Flux and he let me use it on the beach with my landboard for a good 35 Minutes or so... I have been flying a 4m scout for the past year or so (first kite) - i have flown other 4 line kites (with handles) but only static. I enjoyed landboarding while flying the flux much more than my scout... :shocked2: In my opinion, it handled much better, was more responsive, the power was about the same, but a much smoother flight. It was a true joy... The fact that the Flux is on handles and my scout is on a bar probably had an affect on my experience with these two kites. Either way, the flux got me more interested and excited about the sport. In fact, I have had my scout for over a year taken it out probably 8 times, been reading post on the power kite forum off and on for about that time, and I just recently became a member so that i could tell ya'll about this sneaky fun kite. Needless to say I want one... Thanks again Van for approaching me on the beach and letting me try out your gear! Looking forward to Tuesday if everything works out! Thanks for Passing the Pansh!
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