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Originally posted by Cerebite aesthetically I love the look of that round down tube :wee:

Others have said the same, so that's why it is still there. It was only going to be on the 1st proto, not the easiest thing to build.:puzzled:

Considering my last, wild, WWBB day (with all those deep sand trenches)...maybe I was riding a "Titanic" class? :bird:

Titanic class

After the Sesh in the scout today, I can't wait for the QAR to get here

1st time on the beach with mine today. Freakin' blast, big down wind run on the dune face at Sunset. Never had that much fun with a northerly wind. Can't wait for Tuesday.......:bouncing::bouncy:

ya coming back out to the beach on Tuesday?

I wish. The second one of these lands in Georgia then. I'll be back out Saturday.

Heliboy I discovered the joys of sand dunes at Wildwood this year. What a blast going over them.

Just wondering if any video or reviews of this rig will be forthcoming? :ticking:

A short video from JIBE is in the works

Reviews we will leave open to those who tried it out. I enjoyed it! Then again it was made to fit me specifically Most of those who tried it seemed to like it as well but I don't want to speak for them. There are a couple of minor changes we need to make but they are easy fixes. Rake was a bit much for sand, easily changed. Running barrows on hard pack let the rear slip a bit. Should have run extra wides at least. Other than those 2 things, it was awesome! There will be more coming from Corsair in the weeks to come, til the video is up I'll let others give their impressions

Thanks for that, Scott. Can't wait to hear more! There can never be too many choices!

Please also keep in mind that the QAR is our race buggy. This will not be our most popular model. Josh built that one first because I wouldn't shut up about a racer I'm betting the more popular models will be in the schooner class (all around cruiser) or the freestyle buggy that is being developed now. Not sure if that should be sloop class or destroyer class the QAR as it was built was better suited for the lake bed which is why some changes are being made for hard pack riding. I'll do my best to keep everyone up to date on how the freestyle and cruiser buggies progress

I think your race buggy ought to be well suited to the beach, as that is where most race action takes place, I think? In Europe, anyway, not much of a race circuit here! QAR(?) a straight line speedster? (lakebed and all) or am I just confused by the lingo?

QAR - Queen Anns Revenge the ship Edward Teach (Blackbeard) sailed. The race buggy is named after the QAR It will work on sand perfectly after the modifications are made. The rake is what held it back a bit. Had a tendency to under steer a bit. Once we lessen the degree of rake, it will turn mucho better-o. I also want to play with seat positioning a bit to better balance the buggy. I do have to say the curved side rails were sweeeeeet and the buggy is bomb proof!

Wow, Scott. It really seems like you guys have got your ducks in a row!

I'm excited to see the vid, when do expect to have it ready? I had trouble getting a good look at the bug from the pics, I really want to see it in action.

I had an awesome ride on JI myself. Those beaches really are pretty awesome.

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Originally posted by mougl Running barrows on hard pack let the rear slip a bit. Should have run extra wides at least.

Running barrows on the rear has nothing to do with rear slip, putting wides on will make it worse, and they sit on a flatter profile, a barrow tyre will cut into hard packed sand much better, if the rear end is slipping out it is to do with the balance of the buggy, nothing more imho....could be simply rectified by moving the seat further back, to get more weight on the rear wheels.

That's been my experience. Buggy must be balance to prevent slipping. Moving the seat will change weight distribution but will also change your tow point. You have to balance both weight and tow point together to get a good buggy.

Freaking phone.. double post

Buggy is balanced just fine. Seat is from another buggy and requires some fiddling to get in position which will be resolved when the production seats are finalized. Scott did fine considering he had never seen this buggy in person and had to fit it on the fly.

It was an interesting experience for sure The seat didn't fit quite right even with the tinkering with it. Maybe just my lack of experience with a full on race buggy. What I do know is yes, it did need the seat moved a bit further back. Other than that and the rake (fixed now) its was a stellar ride :wee:

I too must say that wider tires will not help the slipping of the rear end, it is the balance of the buggy. Been there, done that, got the T Shirt. Buggy balance and triangulation is a huge factor and something that is most important when developing a race buggy. Proper balance can be obtained by adjusting the location of the seat and the length of the downtube. Once the balance is done properly, then you can adjust all other things such as front fork location, foot pegs, etc...

It also depends on the kite you fly...

At nabx I rode with the vapor 2.3 and the front whould break free first. Swapping out to my cooper 3.3 made the rear break out first.

My assumption is the vapor flew farther to the edge changing the angle of the pull.

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Originally posted by RonH It also depends on the kite you fly... At nabx I rode with the vapor 2.3 and the front whould break free first. Swapping out to my cooper 3.3 made the rear break out first. My assumption is the vapor flew farther to the edge changing the angle of the pull.

Ron, you are correct. Kites have a lot to do with buggy tuning, along with the type of harness and spreader bar set up.
Way to many things involved, like Ford or Chevy, Dodge or Toyota, Nissan.... well we all know this, right?

You have come along way Josh, lookin Good.