Wow I am surprised they havent kicked you out this whole area is so uptight with thier we think we are a resort area attitude. ( I live in Va beach by the way. I am glad you are still able to use the area.

I live in Boulder, CO and have more restrictions then you can imagine, the thing is to do what kyte slinger said earlier, work with them and from the inside. When you can educate them that you are actually less destructive then the bike community (and we are one hell of a bike community) then it does more then just poaching rides. I hope everything worked out for you and you are still flying!

Well, I'm screwed now. This jerk:piggy: showed up and said I had to get my wheeled vehicle off the beach , blah blahh, ahhh crap.

Sorry to hear that WG. It's never good news when we lose beach access.

On the brighter side this now gives you and the Mrs. good reason to relocate near Wildwood.:wee:.

well dang dont that bite

first he said they passed a law 2 wks ago ,then when I left ,I waited for them. And asked for the section of code that they were refering too. Was it state code or city ordinance? Then all the sudden ,it was a rule they made 2 wks ago ( by some biologist named Dawn Carrier). There are no signs posted saying this rule. They also stated the rules were on the website . Funny I don't see any such rule Have a look ,tell me what you guys think.
http://www.hampton.gov/parks/factorypoint.html and http://www.hampton.gov/parks/parks_and_trails.html


I have looked up hampton city ordinances and found
http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientId=14532&st...

and http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientId=14532&st...

oh and dont you know ,they had to bring up that damn beetle that I have never even seen in the 30 yrs I have been going to this beach. Northeastern beach tiger beetle
http://www.dcr.virginia.gov/natural_heritage/documents/fsneb...

If these new "rules" are over those q#%t#@r BIRDS(Turns). I have them nesting all over the marina so pristine sand dunes are not a requirement for them.

losing the beach to bugs is almost as bad. if their that Endangered close all the Beaches and see how well that goes over

Wow that sucks. Good luck.

From the look of that pic it's part of a video?.. Did ya get the part were he is changing his tune?

yeah, I got him saying"we passed a law 2 wks ago" and I got him saying they"made a rule" I can find no state law ,or city ordinance that say I can't ride there. Still looking....

Big rant deleted

Good luck!

time to take to the water!

Yeah but I bet they'll have rules about where you can and can't inflate and launch your kite ... not to mention your kite will be flying near the chicken-hearted terns scaring them all witless

so far it is just wheeled vehicles not the kites

Is that the other thread then ... it all sort of merges into my "Ffffffffffffff ... uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ..." state of mind

I'm curious as to how kites in the sky are a fear-inducing threat but people stomping along the beach aren't ...?

When they say wheeled vehicles are they referring to motorized vehicles? Here on the West coast we lost Ocean Beach in San Francisco based on, of all things, skateboarding regulations relating to public areas and wheeled vehicles. Totally lame to be bunched in with the skating crew that have done little to better their standing in the community and really only get limited permission based upon events. I don't know about you but I would rather not have to be limited to certain days of the year rather than proper public access like everyone else.

As for the bugs I prefer Barnes notion, if they can't adapt to one guy in a three wheeled vehicle then they really don't need to be around. Have the state bring in meals on wheels for whatever feeds on these damn beetles.

And the last time I saw some plovers they looked like they were having the time of their lives chasing me, passing me, and just hovering in front of me while I cruised around 30mph - was actually a pretty cool experience. I don't think we bother these birds as much as the lawmakers think, or those that influence the lawmakers think.

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Originally posted by WELDNGOD they had to bring up that damn beetle that I have never even seen in the 30 yrs

The U.S. Marines were (are still?) prohibited from conducting landing operations on the beaches at Camp Pendleton because Rainbow anti-war environmentalists got a bird on the endangered list.

It's an abuse of environmental law. Thank Guss Hall - founder of "Earth Day" - and, coinkidinkly, leader of the Communist Party of the USA back then too.

I'm pretty sure if they made a law about "wheeeled vehehicles" it would mean motorized vehicles. (cars,motorcycles,atv,go cart,moped)
A kite buggy has no way of powering(no motor , no sail) I fly a kite that pulls me around without the use of anything but the kite. Therefore,if I sit down on a kite buggy,I then transfer my motion thru the buggy. I am basically pedaling in the air by working the kite. Which means it is human powered like a bicycle.

so no wheel chair bond people can in joy the beach !

uh oh! ACCESS DENIED !

stir that into their wishful "rule making "

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Originally posted by WELDNGOD so far it is just wheeled vehicles not the kites

Well, if that's the case, maybe you should look into a "sandboard". There was a thread here talking about it a while back. Sounds like a nice little loophole.

I got one made otta stainless steel. This wknd I will take the landboard and the sand board, I'm gonna make a ply kiteboard or skim board for the shallows (3-4 ft). I will not just go away:P

I've gone over the Municipal Codes and I'll be darn if I could find anything. Is there a person that you could contact that's in charge of the park? How did the officer get down there to tell you this? Walk or Drive? I thought you told me before that the often did patrols down on that beach, correct me if I'm wrong.

Off to Google some more.

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Originally posted by PHREERIDER so no wheel chair bond people can in joy the beach ! uh oh! ACCESS DENIED ! stir that into their wishful "rule making "

The county I live in has openly said no wheelchairs to me

trying to find a way to fight for my beaches too.

Anything I can do to help WG, let me know and I'm on it.

I went back today with the buggy and the ATB, and it was high tide. East winds 8-10, so I just flew the reactor and fished a little. Had a freshly downloaded copy of the RULES too. But no earth shattering kaboom, nothing.:saint: Just a matter of time , the summer just started...

update: beach is off limits as per department of conservation

how about scudding shoes? those off limits too?

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time to take to the water!

HDPE/PTex skids on the the buggy instead of wheels . :wee: :wee: :wee:

ATB,
Sam

ortho home defense !