West Marine has those pulleys

RONSTAN
Series 25 Lightweight Blocks

This is the cheapest I've found...
http://www.fisheriessupply.com/online/ln_menu/product.asp/mode/1/product_id/9269/Ntt/harken+404/N/0/Dx/mode+matchallpartial/Nty/1/R/26770/D/harken+404 /catalog_name/FISCO/Ntx/mode+matchpartial+rel+Inactive/act/A01/Ntk/All

It's the 4th item down Har#404...

The Harken 404 is the block (pulley) Jellis recommends and I've seen them... very trick... has bearings and is semi open so debris doesn't get trapped...

I used the RON#RF13101-2 from this site and work well on the 5m Ace... Jellis claims the Harken is key... I'm assuming it takes a higher load and still operates smooth... stainless steel so it should never break...

So it is $9 each for the stainless steel and $8 for a 2 pack of the plastic ones, it looks like the RON#RF13101-2 (plastic ) have a higher load rating 330lbs vs the metal at 250lbs

I agree... the ron's would probably do fine IMO for the smaller kite (4.5m) you plan on using it with...

I'm sure jellis has his reasons for the 404's he's been doing this for a great period of time and has probably used both on every kite size possible... It would be nice to pick his brain to find out his experiences with both of these... and the benefits of the 404's over the Ronstan's...

my guess is to reduce friction... being that the pull pressure is increased you'd want the smoothness of the bearing... besides they are stainless and probably last forever...

Screwy

Hey Screwy right again "my guess is to reduce friction". Because like you said the advantage is toward the kite, I found that when I used quite a few different types of pulleys that fiction reduction is your friend and by trial and error (and money down the drain LOL) I found the Harkins to be the best all around. I did this research quite some time ago and the pulleys might have changed for sure. I have never had any problems with the Harkin pulleys, in sand, dirt, and salt water at least so far.
jellis

Dagon I sent you an email with the how to drawing on the power handles. Anyone else? Just email me at kbss@iinet.com and I will send you a copy. This is the origional draft and I do not use the knots in the power lines anymore, just the triple larks head knot. I guess I need to revise them, and I will put it on the list of TO DO stuff.

Thanx Jellis!!!

what is the best material to use for a strop? ( the line between the handles that hooks into the harness?) I need a strong material that will not fray on the spreader bar. My ozone strop has a larks head that is woven back into the rope so there is no not, does anyone know how to do this?

pulleys (blocks) can be had at most all marine hardware stores the boaty type places. I had a spyder bar for a while that used a similar system on a bar it worked great. I have been thinking of a laminated wooden pair myself ash likely as I have a chunk. I just don't have a pressing need yet I have a beat up pair of flexi's and a pair of ozone one but wow they are the short ones and well they are short.

Sorry I didn't see the second page...

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Originally posted by jellis Dagon I sent you an email with the how to drawing on the power handles. Anyone else? Just email me at kbss@iinet.com and I will send you a copy. This is the origional draft and I do not use the knots in the power lines anymore, just the triple larks head knot. I guess I need to revise them, and I will put it on the list of TO DO stuff.

Hello forum. I'm new here and new to power kiting. I have been flying dual lined stunt kites for several years, but nothing that can lift me off the ground, or throw me down to it. In fact, I'm so new to PS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-ing, that I just got a 2010 model Prism 2.5 Snapshot foil in the mail yesterday and haven't flown it, yet.

Anyway, it is quad ready, but only comes with 2 lines and straps. I want to make some handles on the cheap, instead of paying $40 + s&h. I know I am coming into this thread a couple years late, but I was wondering, Jellis, if you could send me the plans for handles that you offered up?

Thanks a lot.

handles are for four line kites , Kev. When you step up to four line kites you will then need handles or a bar. I recommend handles

Kevnm U2Usent

Jon's Plastic handles saved the day this winter.

A snowmobile picked up a friends lines and when the handles hit the track they self destructed save a lot of damage!

#1 for Plastic !

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Originally posted by WELDNGOD handles are for four line kites , Kev. When you step up to four line kites you will then need handles or a bar. I recommend handles

Thanks. When I said it is quad ready, I meant that they bridle it so that you can add 2 more lines to fly with handles. As a dual line kite, the brake bridles just hang limp.