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Originally posted by carltb my full quiver is a 10-13-15-18 but the main kites are the 15 then the 10 so you should be ok with what you've got.

bumpage...................

Question: How do you guys usually pack PL kites? With line attached like Flysurfer or detach lines and pack up kite only?

I always take the lines off and pack the wound bar seperately and just about everyone else I've seen does the same.

That being said, if you are not moving your bar from kite to kite, there is nothing stopping you from putting the kite tips together and rolling the bar (lines attached) up in the kite towards the deflation zipper- like I pack my HQ Neo. The backpack expands so you can pack the kite with the sticks/ battens in the tips,

AJ - whats your weight...I have a V2 16 and 19..I weigh 205lbs..cant wait until I try them out to find out the windrange

190#

either way.................in a hurry leave the sticks, if not flip a coin?

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Originally posted by leebrianh Question: How do you guys usually pack PL kites? With line attached like Flysurfer or detach lines and pack up kite only?

I always leave the spars in and lines attached. I see no reason to remove when i am going to be using it almost everyday. I even left the kites assembled when i went to Florida last weekend...........aj

lines off

ends together, leave the sticks in

roll it up, bag it

i use multiple kite bar combos

i have left it attached once but need the bar set up for different kite and that means i had to open it up

i am a sticks left in type flyer

I've told Brian I'm stalking him so he shouldn't be surprised if I ask to fly that Syn10m next time I'm down - I got an old Flysurfer Warrior 16m and Peter Lynn 840sarc to compare against my newer Ozone Instinct inflatable and I am flying these ancient foils on land and snow exclusively and thinking strongly about using them for some water use too - thought I'd choose one vs the other and buy a new model based on that but it looks like I like the Flysurfers for clean and low wind AND the PL's for high and gusty winds -

Why isn't there a warning on this site that if you think you'll save money going with a single quiver for land, water, snow you'll just end up more foils?

I take the lines off and wind them on the bar. if I'm going out again soon I leave the spars in... for smaller storage needs I'll take them out.

(after walking out to the garage for a beverage)

10m Scorp, and 18m Phantom are stored with the spars in, 15m Phantom and 16m Scorp have spars out. Have two bars of different lengths so find it easier to wind lines on the bar, then rig for the kite being used. 10m Scorp is a buggy speed demon



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Originally posted by bluefunelement I've told Brian I'm stalking him so he shouldn't be surprised if I ask to fly that Syn10m next time I'm down ........ it looks like I like the Flysurfers for clean and low wind AND the PL's for high and gusty winds -

My first stalker.... I am flattered You sure can try my Synergy any time, blue. Just show up at Wildwood and hang out with us from time to time

I agree with you on Flysurfer vs PL. I just cannot find the bar feel of Flysurfer from any other kites, including PL. But Flysurfer kicked my a$$ many times in gusty wind.

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Originally posted by leebrianh I just cannot find the bar feel of Flysurfer from any other kites, including PL.

Isn't that true.

Bar feeling on FS is perfection especially for P4

My new babies

Synergy 10M, Scorpion 16M

sweet, that was quick...........................have you unpacked the Scorp?

ye, just took it out and packed it back. excellent condition just like you promised. Thanks

Hope to take it out this weekend.

Question 2, check this picture out:



At the end wing tip, where the aluminum stick end, fabric is worn out. What would be the best way to fix it?

a restitch perhaps........is that the Synergy?

I had similar wear on the Guerilla but it was along the edge where the rearmost pigtail sews in. I took it to a tailor in town and after figuring out how to manhandle 10m of ripstop on their machines they were able to re-stitch and reinforce it for about $75.

Yes, that's Synergy 10M. Previous owner already stitched it but it's happening again.

I might re-stitch. Hope my sawing machine can handle it.

had a thought, maybe piece of black belt webbing (military surplus store) over the area and a restitch should be good as new. Ill keep an I open on the 15 after a few hours. I applied sailkote on my sticks (your sticks now) for ease in and out of the pocket. Im probably a bit too protective (nice way of saying anal) with my kites. 26 yrs in the aircraft business will do that.............................

can't see the damage that well in the photo.

my V13 had a tear in the pocket near the leading edge end 2-3inches before the stick seat .

waxed dental floss, needle , small pliers, horizontal mattress stitch & 5 min.

not a problem any more and ...and ...it been tested up to 46 mph

When the sticS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s in the pocket, I can see the tip through the worn hole. If I leave it that way, it will continuously wears out and eventually the hole will be big enough for the stick to go through.

I like the idea of patching additional material. Will try it. Thanks guys.

There was a posting over at the arc users group (a yahoo group) that there was a production error on the Synergy; the stiching at the top of the pocket was supposed to go through the webbing. It missed, so one needs to stitch across the top, making sure to go through the webbing.

Steve Bateman