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Originally posted by snobdr anything flying int 1-2 id like to see.

Anything??

I do have indoor kites that I fly quite a bit in zero wind. There are also indoor competitions that are held around the U.S. and other countries. Lincoln City has one of the larger indoor festivals and they have quite a few competitors that go head to head every year.

I have flown larger foils in zero winds, it is a ton of work but once you get the kite in the air it will stay as long as you keep it moving. Flying 360's is a workout and fun - and pretty impressive if you haven't seen it done before. ---360 is flying the kite around in a full 360' circle with the pilot in the center. NABX '07 myself and Dean J. were flying a 5.0 Yakuza in 360's as a demo to some photographers that were interested in the event.

Indoor flying is an art and very fun - something to do when the other stuff won't fly.

I'm kinda hoping a camel eats my 10.8 on the Sahara trip so that they will have to replace it with a R II ;-)

Angus, like I told you when I ordered the 8.3, my kite flying time is precious and hard to obtain. I can't afford NOT to have a kite like that to open the door to roll the buggy when you really don't have much to work with. I was most impressed. Thinking about the IIs being even a notch better is most intriguing. I wondered about overlap but you can't skip the 8.3 or the 10.8. They both have their days.

Pablo had a 16m PKD Century that flew in extreme low wind. That is if you knew how to fly it.
I was still s bit of a beginer and had trouble with it. When there was enough wind that I could fly it , it scared the crap out of me.

PKD made a huge Combat as well but I have never heard how they worked in low wind.

you all need the PL Vapor 16.1m ... especially in pink too.

pink is the new black ---> j/k

what until you see the colours schemes for the RIIs and Vapors ... very nice!!!

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Originally posted by ripsessionkites you all need the PL Vapor 16.1m ... especially in pink too. pink is the new black ---> j/k what until you see the colours schemes for the RIIs and Vapors ... very nice!!!

ill demo the 16.1 pink vapor for ya those kites are freakin sweet (the red/white/black one looks just plain sick!)

no, it just sux, wind-wise, around here lately... its either no wind, or balls to the wall gales! a giant FB kite is calling me...

This may sound off-the-wall, but I don't think Feyd would mind me quoting him here:

He told me his modded 12m Ranger "pulls like a FS 15m P4" and is his "go to on light wind days when my 19m Syn won't pull me." He recommends adding 5-7m extensions to it.

I just tried 20' extensions on mine and could at least get it flying a bit in some very low winds. Not bad for $199!