Thanks ssayre. The sliding seems like it'd be fun and good practice for an ATB board. I can't quite ever manage to slide on the grass around here and no beaches to try it on, so been debating picking up a cheap CL longboard to help learn the mechanics better or have fun on when my grassy places are full.

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Yes, you were very close to sliding on a number of those runs with the camera on the ground. I just came in from a short slide session. You're running 78a wheels, correct? If you go up to an 81-85a wheel you'll be sliding nicely but all it takes it a bit more effort and you can slide any wheel and the softer wheel will be more controlled and help you scrub speed..

Yes 78a wheels. I can hold an edge pretty good with them, but they are pretty grippy when they slide. Do you think I should give the 81 or 85's a try? Maybe it would be good to have both depending on if I'm sliding or trying to hold an edge?

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Working in a church over Easter weekend means its like working in the stadium during Superbowl weekend... I've been a little out of touch here,...but hey, looking good Sean! I'm giving super strong consideration to getting a longboard

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Thanks ssayre. The sliding seems like it'd be fun and good practice for an ATB board. I can't quite ever manage to slide on the grass around here and no beaches to try it on, so been debating picking up a cheap CL longboard to help learn the mechanics better or have fun on when my grassy places are full.

Do it! Best bang for the buck, BUT be careful. My daughter didn't have any experience and she fell pretty hard her first time on it (without kite). Randy also took a tumble when he was in Indy. Spencer, you can't risk the slightest injury before Jibe.

Nice vid Sean. That looked like a lot of fun.

Yeah excellent stuff, you're looking like a real pro on that thing!!

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Working in a church over Easter weekend means its like working in the stadium during Superbowl weekend... I've been a little out of touch here,...but hey, looking good Sean! I'm giving super strong consideration to getting a longboard

If you can find a spot that works let me know. I've already got a longboard. I think the surface is too rough at my lake spot so I've always used my ATB there.

nice easter run ! actually the longboard/kite relates more to kite surfing than ATB, obviously all similar, but feel, flow and timing definitely strapless surf . mostly because you are more ON TOP of the board v. ATB you tend carry more power and a little deeper edge, and ON TOP riding with ATB in light air is same pretty much.

little more power and you'll be sliding FO SHO! step up hardness a little at a time find a good combo of SMOOTH, GRIP and RELEASE . keep it phlowing man!

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nice easter run ! actually the longboard/kite relates more to kite surfing than ATB, obviously all similar, but feel, flow and timing definitely strapless surf . mostly because you are more ON TOP of the board v. ATB you tend carry more power and a little deeper edge, and ON TOP riding with ATB in light air is same pretty much. little more power and you'll be sliding FO SHO! step up hardness a little at a time find a good combo of SMOOTH, GRIP and RELEASE . keep it phlowing man!

Thanks. I plan on trying out some different hardness of wheels sometime soon. I've only been on grass a couple times since using gravel lot / pavement / buggy / longboard. It's really hard to go back once you hit a smooth phlow

81a abec 11 flashbacks are the bomb for sliding and worth considering. At your weight you'd be totally fine going to an 81-82a wheel. 85 could be good as well. That's a decent duro in larger sizes (66-72mm). You just don't want to flat spot them. Its pretty easy for me to hold a slide out on my landboard because I'm being pulled through sand. If you go 90* on a longboard and hold a slide out on pavement you'll flatspot the wheels in a hurry. You have to keep the board moving and slightly off 90* so the wheels keep spinning throughout the slide.

If you had told me 60 years ago that I would be on skates or a skateboard when I was 70, I would have LoL. I was out on a golf course today no kite, doing some very nice hills. I like grass better than payment. This one run is about 600 feet. I did that 10 or more times. That made a big change in my boarding. If i can get out there tomorrow I going do it some more. Right at the last I was sailing down the hill. :evil:

I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw this. I think it's new but I'm not sure. It's the Trampa Street Carver. They also have new electronic mods for their kiteboards and street carver.

http://www.trampaboards.com/ultimate-street-carver-holypro-o...

its a remake (reproduction) . can't remember the original maker. BMW had one very much like flexboardz design.

Phree, how do you think that would be for kiting? They come with wheels they call "stickies" 76a and 78a. I went out yesterday on wet pavement and had no grip at all. I would still like trying some harder wheels but I think I might like the softer wheels (like I have) to hold an edge for speed.

That board would be fun but no better than a 10" wide stiff deck with proper bushings, trucks and wheels at about half the cost.

No skateboard wheels have traction if the road is damp. Soft wouldn't have helped you much there. If you're thinking about new wheels here is a tutorial from Muir Skate and Silverfish which you may want to read. Grip is more than just durometer.

https://www.muirskate.com/longboard-guide/cruising-carving/w...

https://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/forum/longboard-skate...

My guess is nothing made for "carving" will work well.

That board is made for pumping and surfing pavement. Actuates like a double gullwing board which I absolutely love the feel of, love the fact that you can pump it to a good clip and maintain it but at speed it's death wobble city. :o


B-Roc is right. Board wheels don't grip for beans on wet.

For very high speed, yes a carving type board may not be great but I have the double gullwing and when I'm going somewhat fast I keep carving just enough to prevent wobble or I'm leaning hard enough not to wobble but not enough to slide out (I'm quite aware of where the fine line is now

But, the gullwing trucks are excellent for transitioning and turning towards the kite in gust and away in lull so I really think a carving board/trucks set up works well. Maybe not for any real speed though greater than 20mph. I've had it to 19mph so far

riding wet is a skill booster, light balance and easy action . it will kill the bearings on skate .

if its heavy wet the bearings are truly doom. damp surface bearing shield stays dry u can get away with some fun and no damage. if its crunchy on the finish its over. wd40 spray, if the grease is already gone, may add 10-20hours of usable roll.

B-roc is right traction is basically absent in wet, there are only degrees of not so slippery.

OLD (used), soft are the best in general , ALL goes to balance and control , it is a powerslide learning opportunity so there is value in it.

the carver boards are like ATB with street wheels with deeper truck action. fun but heavy and clumsy compared to skate long board. to simulate with ATB pump the tires up ROCK hard , careful not to pop, so the rolling resistance is low as possible...and another avenue is bazookas for ATB rims, cool for cruise but still a little clumsy

the carvers have really low CG and you go pretty deep carves with them , but thats about it.

Ahhhhh IC, good point. My problem is I default to how speed comes into play and how thing progress as you go faster and faster. It never even occurred to me that one would be riding at speeds where that much actuation wouldn't be an issue. And I can only imagine that transitioning on a board like that must feel pretty dang awesome.

You've given my a lot to consider. Our snow season is over now and I'm really finding it difficult to put the kites away so I'm looking at other options to get my fix over the summer.

Nothing worse than an itch you can't scratch.

good info on the carvers. It was really wet yesterday so I gave the bearings a good soaking. I consider my wheels fairly grippy and they would slide out with the lightest of pressure. I'm nursing a bad wrist and elbow from a soccer injury incurred over the winter so I'm a little hesitant on sliding for the time being. Who would of thought I would injure myself in soccer and not kiting on asphalt :o

I wonder how something like an Onda Longa would work. Low center of gravity, between the trucks as opposed to on top of them. And easy adjustment of the truck stiffness depending on your tastes for the day. 7" wheels.

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You've given my a lot to consider. Our snow season is over now and I'm really finding it difficult to put the kites away so I'm looking at other options to get my fix over the summer. Nothing worse than an itch you can't scratch.

Exactly! I've acquired the rides and kites necessary to be able to kite nearly every day if I wanted to. The one thing I'm missing is snow equipment. We had very little snow this year but I still need to plan ahead with either board or skis

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I wonder how something like an Onda Longa would work. Low center of gravity, between the trucks as opposed to on top of them. And easy adjustment of the truck stiffness depending on your tastes for the day. 7" wheels.

http://shop.ondamotion.com/onda-longa

Affordable and even mentions that it's good for kite skating. B-roc, Phreerider, What say you?

I don't know. Looks cool and carvey but I'd like to know how much side force you can put on those rims. A kite adds torque that a board/wheel/rim is not going to see under normal circumstances unless you are sliding a lot. Is this the same company that makes Onda cycles (kid of the guy who invented Rev kites)?

I do like its drop platform

yeah man those are cool carvers for a roll about.

...the wheels, i have doubts , any kinda real power would not be a good idea. for LIGHT carve action wheels might make it 20hours. total guess .

looks pretty "consumer soft" , but get the right wheels may deliver some fun action. deck looks cool, for smaller rider may be decent.

big guy break that pretty quick i suspect

Very laid back session practicing using no lines. I've tried and failed a few times since my last successful attempt. Wind needs to be consistent enough that when you launch, the kite stays up without back stalling. I later switched to 5 meter lines and had better runs but I still like working on it when I can.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nelzNO4Jqtc

taking the show on the road! good one!

Very nice, what a spot! Wide open with few obstructions! How much wind?

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taking the show on the road! good one!

I try to take the show everywhere I happen to be.

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Very nice, what a spot! Wide open with few obstructions! How much wind?

I would say 10ish with gusts of 15. It was forecast to be gusting 20. I immediately regretted not putting up the 5.5 meter. That day wind was out of the North so I could have used any length lines. If you notice, there are power lines to the North. When wind is out of the South, I have to use no lines so I want to be well practiced when I get a South wind. There's a lot of strategy involved sometimes :cool2:

I noticed the power lines, but I figure we each have to assess our own skill/comfort level, and deal with the conditions we are dealt. I also take some small risk riding in a parking lot, speeding up to 25 or so, then shutting her down to avoid jumping the curb and being dragged out onto the boat slips, all in a space of 60 yards or so. Power slides on asphalt can go wrong so quickly! Practice makes sense. Good strategy!

That looked fun.
And you guys mentioned some good points to think about, very helpful.
Fly safe, fly often!

VERY AWESOME Sean!!! I loved the vid, the spot, the music, the vibe... love it! great job and I'm super jealous of that primo spot... looks perfect for the long board!!!

Every time I think about NOT getting a longboard, you reel me back in!!!