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[*] posted on 26-8-2015 at 08:52 PM


Bigger buggy Steve... You know it's what you need :evil:

Then a trailer hitch buggy rack... You need to have TWO buggies!!!



See how EASILY they fit on my Honda Element :evil:



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[*] posted on 27-8-2015 at 12:17 AM


Axle off, maybe headstock off too, and a bigger buggy plus all your gear will EASILY fit in your Edge!!! No tow hitch required and just a little more to breakdown (only a few bolts!)

Just use stealth tactics and lie through your teeth. Just say you bought a "slightly" bigger axle and a different seat. For safety reasons of course. My wife raised an eyebrow when I mentioned I needed to move onto my 3rd buggy in less than 6 months (first had a Peter Lynn, then a wide axle flexifoil) but when I said it would be infinitely safer she was cool. I likened it to riding around in a little Smart Car vs a Hummer...and asked what would she prefer I was in? :cool:



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[*] posted on 27-8-2015 at 05:24 AM


You guys are incorrigible. Enough already!

Spencer - great set up on the Honda. Side benefit - you can now pop wheelies in that Element and not have to worry about bringing the front end up to high.

Paul - Safety first. Good actual philosophy and the ultimate tool of choice in wife lobbying!

This is it for this season. Believe it or not, the leaves are starting to turn around where I live at 7,000 ft above sea level. Dreams of snow are in the air! Then it will be time for my (anticipated) winter obsession.... snowkiting! Who knows what may end up in the garage after a Spring melt? :evil:



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[*] posted on 27-8-2015 at 04:54 PM


Just get it over with Steve and snag that Sysmic S2 over on XK. We'll build you a buggy rack :thumbup:



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[*] posted on 27-8-2015 at 05:33 PM


If you guys are waiting for me to buy another buggy you're going to need to pack a lunch. I actually think I'm done for a while. Done, that is, until Steffen released the fabled UltraStar! :evil:



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[*] posted on 27-8-2015 at 06:53 PM


Hey Spencer. I like that!



I'm not technically thread drifting here. There is a Born sticker on my glass :P



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[*] posted on 27-8-2015 at 07:03 PM


Dang, that is a sweet looking buggy! Nice Born sticker too... ;)



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[*] posted on 27-8-2015 at 07:54 PM


Thanks Steve! Explaining to people that don't have a clue, it is wind powered never gets old :D



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[*] posted on 28-8-2015 at 04:50 PM


In all seriousness Steve, the trailer hitch buggy rack has been such a time saver for loading and unloading and I can't recommend it more. I have mine set up to where I back whichever buggy up to my kitemobile, set the back axle on the mount pick up the front end and strap it on,... saves me having to lift the whole weight of the bug and goes on and off super easy and super fast. I can pack my kite and load my buggy off the the field in 15 minutes. If you don't have a trailer hitch on your Edge already, they are pretty affordable from uhaul.

Sorry for the veer, I now return you to your regularly scheduled Nasa Star thread... Man, those Nasa Stars are awesome aren't they!

Get your Long Star yet Steve?



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[*] posted on 28-8-2015 at 06:56 PM


Spencer - thanks for the continued great advice. Your buggy, buggy rack, buggy hauling machine, and yes, that Born-Kite sticker are all outstanding! My Edge is a fleet vehicle and I could get in a lot of trouble for modifying it because technically its not mine. It doesn't come with a hitch, presumably so folks won't tow boats and other heavy stuff. Honestly, I'm doing great with my BigFoot and plan to stay with it for a good long while.

Now.... back to our regularly scheduled topic! To your question do I yet have my LongStars? No. They are actually coming in two installments. The first is currently in the DHL/US Customs/USPS Vortex. Here is my latest and greatest on it:

"Status from Sun, 23.08.2015 07:52 The shipment will be transported to the destination country and, from there, handed over to the delivery organization. (Homepage / online shipment tracking: )"

I know other readers of this thread have also stared at comparable and completely uninformative text themselves. Last time I ordered from Steffen this was eventually additionally populated with a USPS tracking number for the package's journey from Jersey City to Utah.

My 7m LongStar is in the Vortex along with my 10m NS3 and some 7m lines destined to become my short lines for asphalt buggy fun run off an extra Born bar that I'll hold in my hands (no chicken loop). My 5m LongStar is waiting patiently on Steffen's bedstand for the "tailors" (Steffen's word) in the Czech Republic to finish sowing my 12.5m NS3 before he ships them together, hopefully by the end of next week. They will then enter said Vortex. A nice Christmas present to myself perhaps? :D



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"Status from Sun, 23.08.2015 07:52 The shipment will be transported to the destination country and, from there, handed over to the delivery organization. (Homepage / online shipment tracking: )"


Mine said that from the 10th of August until the 26th August. Then it suddenly updated and appeared at my local Post Office. It'll make it eventually!



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[*] posted on 30-8-2015 at 04:31 AM


Another fantastic LongStar video, both from the perspective of the kite as well as the magnificent pilot (way to go Steffen)! I really admired how well the kite shot up into the air both during nose-up and nose-down take offs.

Thanks John Holgate for your original posting over on XK.





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[*] posted on 30-8-2015 at 04:20 PM


Just watched this and showed my wife. I demanded she wear tight jeans and fly my kites. She promptly left. still waiting on response
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[*] posted on 30-8-2015 at 05:46 PM


:lol:



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[*] posted on 30-8-2015 at 06:52 PM


:piggy::lol:



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[*] posted on 8-9-2015 at 09:45 AM


LongStar in the House! :smilegrin:






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Ozone kites:
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[*] posted on 8-9-2015 at 12:18 PM


DUDE!!!!



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[*] posted on 8-9-2015 at 02:51 PM


About time! Let's hope the dreaded new kite curse doesn't settle over your area now. :D



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[*] posted on 8-9-2015 at 03:08 PM


Sean, ... Dude... :lol:

Steve: AWESOMESAUCE!!!!!



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[*] posted on 8-9-2015 at 04:45 PM


Nice Steve, the extra lone wait just adds to the excitement when you finally see that package. :D
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[*] posted on 11-9-2015 at 06:04 PM
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Fellow Born-Kite fans! I had a chance to get my new 10m NS3 up in the air today for its first spin. It was an interesting session. This kite is BIG! Quite a bit to manage on the ground and the bridle lines are proportionally longer, so all around just more fiddling. In the air it creates a lot of grunt as you would expect. It turns and moves across the sky a lot slower than smaller NS3 as you'd expect. I flew it at a 60 CM bar width on my custom bar which I'm sure helped things.

Off camera I had a fair number of back stalls and collapses as the bottom dropped out of the wind. The stronger the wind the better the kite behaved. It would be easy to get overpowered and get pulled sideways being as the kite is so big.

Fun to fly to be sure. I would say that the day would have been a toss up performance wise with this kite and the 12m Peak-2, but the P2 would have the DP safety valve. P2s cost about twice as much so you might expect some performance differences.

Bonus points for identifying my tank top! :lol:







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[*] posted on 11-9-2015 at 06:41 PM


Ah ha. I know exactly what that tank top is! Geez, those fences sure come up quick. There's not too many 10m kites that will pivot almost on a wing tip like that. I don't suppose you gave the 7m Long Star a whlrl on the same day? Will be very interested to hear the comparison to the 10m.



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[*] posted on 11-9-2015 at 06:59 PM


Sorry John, no LS today. I certainly agree, the fences come up very quickly at this site. I would call this site my fourth choice for buggying in my town. The better three were all in use. This one however does have artificial turf so the rolling resistance is really low, which was a good thing on a light wind day like this.

I'd like to get some flying time in with this kite with some higher winds. It just seemed to behave a lot better when the wind picked up.



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Ozone kites:
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[*] posted on 12-9-2015 at 05:40 AM


That looks AWSOME SAUCE!!!!

I'm Loving the 10m color combo! It looks like it'll suite my crappy wind for sure. My last RII sale looks to be finalizing, and I'm waiting to sell one of my shop tools on CL... anybody wanna buy a jointer :D

You got me all 10m jazzed Steve!!!

Is it a Converse All-star tank?



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[*] posted on 12-9-2015 at 06:05 AM


Spencer - way off on the tank top guess. Come on, use your nogin! :P



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NasaStar-3 (3.2m)

Ozone kites:
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[*] posted on 12-9-2015 at 11:59 AM


Is Steffen offering a new Born-kite series of Nasa Star wife-beaters?



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[*] posted on 12-9-2015 at 12:10 PM


Another nice vid Steve! That bar looks to be serving its intended universal service!



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[*] posted on 12-9-2015 at 04:55 PM
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A little more 10m NS3 Born Porn. You know you can't get enough!:lol:

I put together my original B-K NS3 bar as a free-hand set up with 7m lines. I had it left over after I set up my custom adjustable width bar as my main bar for hooking in.

I thought the winds were going to be lighter! Average winds turned out to be about 12 mph with gusts clocking up to 16. WAY too much wind for the 10m, particularly for holding the bar in my hands. I was super pressed for time; otherwise I would have gone back to my car and gotten the 8.5m. As it was I completely Popeyed my forearms. Had I left the video sound on you would have heard me grunting, huffing, and puffing. :o

I think I'll reserve my hand held sessions for rides on artificial turf or other surfaces without much rolling resistance. This was a lot of work!

I did prove to myself that short lining was possible with the NS3s. The kite behaved like a champ; it was just me that was overpowered!

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NasaStar-3 (3.2m)

Ozone kites:
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Flysurfer Kites:
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[*] posted on 12-9-2015 at 05:09 PM


Great Steve, glad to have another short line flier! I've had a lot of fun that I otherwise wouldn't have due to short lines making certain areas accessible. Also, useful as you did to tame higher wind for the kite size
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[*] posted on 12-9-2015 at 05:23 PM


Thanks Sean, though I'm not too sure I "tamed" the 10m today. It was a bit more like it xxxxx slapped me! I would have been a lot better off with my 8.5m in the air. One thing about the 10m (and the 8.5 to a certain extent and I can only imagine the 12.5 once I get it) is these bigger NS3s are a lot to handle on the ground. The bridle lines are longer, there is a lot more rip stop flapping around, there is a lot more to wrestle into submission when folding them up under wind pressure, etc. Every bit as much to handle as the 12m P2 and that can be quite a handful on the ground as well when working alone.

Completely agree about shorter lines making small sites more accessible. This and the last video I posted were both taken at sites that are essentially single soccer fields with fencing around them a little bit beyond the side and end lines. The fences are rough cut logs with thick wire link fences. Kite killers! I don't want my kites anywhere near these carnivorous fences so the short lines buys me more running room before each turn. Sweet.



Born-Kites:
RaceStar+ (3.0m, 5.0m, 7.0m, 9.0m)
NasaStar-5 (2.5m, 4.0m)
NasaStar-4 (2.5m)
NasaStar-3 (3.2m)

Ozone kites:
Access (6.0m)

Flysurfer Kites:
Peak-5 (2.5m)

Buggy:
Peter Lynn BigFoot+ nose & tail; midsection VTT rail & seat kit; home-brewed AQR

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