There are a few buggies on Ebay sold by jonesband1998 that I've never heard of before. Anyone know anything about them. Their website is very basic- almost no info.

Stay away from that seller. He makes knock off products based on other company's R&D. When asked about it, he claims stuff like the big companies ripped him off. The picture further down the listing shows a libre buggy and he doesn't think that is a conflict to show another buggy in the picture. A buyer could think they are getting that cool buggy when they are really getting a knock off of a kite trike. The real one has complaints about quality and durability so a knockoff probably isn't as good.

Ditto BB's comments...I bought a kite trike from this seller...long story short...what a piece of crap...it's running good now though...after replacing the seat, new wheels (hubs, bearings, tubes and tires) and getting the front pegs welded because I couldn't find nuts and bolts that would allow me to tighten them enough so they wouldn't move...

The old adage is really true here...you get what you pay for!

Thanks for the feedback.

I searched but couldn't find anything about this vendor or the buggy. I added the above subject so that anyone else searching for info on the Rx4 buggy will find this posting.

R&D takes time and money. I choose to not deal with people (and countries like China) who rip off designs and don't respect patents and other types of intelectual property.

He used to claim this was a some other buggy but used the same rip off pictures of a Libre? When asked about who designed it he was not straight forward with answers. This is NOT a staright forward dealer or a proven product. Avoid this seller. He has obviously changed the name to side step previous bad press. Search Kite Trike and Romano buggy for previous names.

Good catch Bobby and all. I see the new name, but when you look at the other stuff he is selling, it's pretty clear he's the same guy. The worst offense is the copy of the HQ Montana 2 where he even uses HQ's own ad copy from their catalog, verbatim!

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Originally posted by acampbell Good catch Bobby and all. I see the new name, but when you look at the other stuff he is selling, it's pretty clear he's the same guy. The worst offense is the copy of the HQ Montana 2 where he even uses HQ's own ad copy from their catalog, verbatim!

Not to mention the graphics on the kite and the same font as on the Montana IV. I enjoyed picking on the guy asking about some news articles about the European kite wins with his Montana knockoff. He dodged the question. He had the audacity to use the word Montana in his product description! Sleezy. Oh, and a PKF member realized he sold the scumbag a Montana which was certainly taken apart and copied to make his kite. No shame at all.

This takes the cake. I was looking at the ebay listing and they have links to 2 "kite forums". I quote them because it looks like they went to the trouble to set up these forums in order to post reviews on their Nova Montana knockoffs and their kite trike buggy knockoff. This is where it gets interesting. I found a post where a guy said he just got his nova 9.5m depower kite and low a behold, HE BOUGHT IT FROM BEAMERBOB! I use that screenname on at least 3 different forums so I guess he figured it would be recognized and lend some credibility to their shell game. Why not just go to market with your own kite via normal channels instead of all this cat and mouse stuff? I was very vocal against him on this forum in the past. He actually became a PKF member posing as a buyer interested in this Nova kite and ended up buying one even though there were none sold on ebay in the same time frame. ALL his posts were in defense of these knockoff copies. Pretty shallow which explains alot. The forum thread that mentions my name is conveniently locked to keep anyone from casting shadows on their sleazy operation.

EDIT: I don't think he made up the story but copied another one from here on PKF. That's why my username popped up.

I looked at another review on an Extreme Apex buggy and that wsa copied from this forum from a post when Ripsessions got his apex. Looks like word for word with some names changed. Yep, the thread is locked. Where is this guy? I'm ready to get a posse together. :ticking: :flaming:

EDIT: He even links to Rips photobucket page to illustrate the assembly.

EDIT 2: Montana III review was copied word for word from a racekites review.

man, he's back!!!!!!!

the bugger is fearsomely determined, eh?

this slimy little despicable sleazeball of an ebay parasite deserves to have his hard drives nuked.

i'd likely spare his family jewels, tho, he's likely human after all and maybe somebody somewhere loves him, I'd hate to risk breaking that person's heart, unlikely as the prospect might be.

i inquired about this guy a while back, the forum sorted me out, and make no mistake it is indeed the spot of spew involved here.

OK, THAT'S MY INNER TROLL DONE WITH FOR THE DAY!!!!!!

HOLY CRAP :evil:

Does Rip' know about this ? That is the same software PKC runs on and I'm sure he posted that review there.
This seems illegal to me ????? :dunno:
A new low for sure!

Shady. Everything about this seems so shady.

That picture of the Libre buggy was tacken off of BMWs website. They used it in an add for a new suv or something

it's that time of year again . Whatta douchebag!

I don't think anyone actually posted on that "forum". The screennames even look like 1 guys just started coming up with names. There was even one on there called "BeamBob" as a member. I recognize the text from almost every post I looked at. Most threads are locked so you can't ruin the illusion they have created. They couldn't review on a real forum because they couldn't control the replies that dismissed their stuff for what it is. The conditions under how you join are very strict mainly stating that they can pull your post if it says anything bad or stuff they don't like. All the posts were late spring and early summer. None before and none after.

Potemkin Village

In the purest definition.

I notice he rips off most of our names and twists them around.

I have never heard of anyone using Roadrunner as a kite name ? I'm assuming that is my ripped off name.

How does a person inform Ebay of these types of things?

lol ... cool im famous "ripviper" from a spammer. NOT

wtf, can we sue now?

thanks for bring this to my attention.

did you see the PTW Cougar II Buggy Review? Where was that copied from?

That's bibbler from racekites writing the original review above.

lol, is this guy for real or what....I have just sent Bibbler a copy of this...

... perhaps he works for Pansh? :D

Of course all of the reviews are ripped off of other sites.

We need to be carefull.

He found out about us do to GOOGLE and such. If his sites get too much traffic his plan will work. the 1st thing to come up will no longer be links to us discussing his stuff anymore . :dunno:

i wouldn't buy off him by the sound of it

so what everyone is saying here is that KYSON USA IS A RIPOFF?? this guy is in the houston area?? hilarious... he is selling knockoff buggies and kites, and being dishonest about other things, too, like ink and supplies...

i wonder how you decide to cheat people out of money for kites and ink?? its a weird duo... i hope this thread gets picked up by google when people search for kyson usa... they can read for themselves that the people that run kyson usa are ripping off images, reviews, and peoples ID's to sell their own crappy products...

i did a search for kyson usa, and found a lot of people complaining about this guys claims... what a douchebag...

apparently the address is an apartment complex... and its a really bad one, with claims of having a slumlord!!!

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&client=fi...

its gotta be the same guy

It looks like there is an all our war between powerkiteforum.com and me.

This whole thing is starting to be fun.

Your forum is being exposed to the world's largest online site and it is not very positive. Buyers can form their own opinions about this forum and your sponsors will do the same.

Hello Jason or Jonesband or whichever name you are able to use this week before your ways catch up with your names. Are these even real Flexifoil and Peter Lynn products? Or did they rip off your design again like you said HQ did with your european contest winning NOVA? (I never did find any news articles on those big wins BTW). It's funny that HQ is coming out with their 5th revision of the Montana. How many revisions are there of the NOVA? Oh. None huh? I would be thrilled for your potential customers to come evaluate PKF as well as that shell forum you created copying others reviews and comments from real forums. Any discerning person will quickly notice that your fake forum was only "posted" to for about a 2 week period with most threads closed so real people can't mess up the facade. How hard would it be to just earn an honest living with the effort you have put into running your cheat scam?

well well well.......its our old buddy jason!! get a life loser!!!thumbdown::megan::megan::megan::moon::moon::moon::moon::moon: