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[*] posted on 8-10-2009 at 08:16 PM
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im 14 ive been flying stunt kites since iw as five this summer i bought a t-foil in a local kite shop this week i bought a beamer 2m i weigh 115 do you think i can kite jump in 10-17mph wind??
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[*] posted on 8-10-2009 at 08:30 PM


With a 2m kite, probably not a good idea, the Beamer isn't designed to be a lifty kite, but it is a great kite to learn on.

What everybody here's going to tell you is to practice on that for a couple of months, and then maybe you can get a larger kite designed for jumping.

Jumping can be dangerous, and can happen with any kite, but people recommend kites larger than 5m, so when you do get lifted, you don't get dropped like a rock. Practice with that kite, and see if there's anyone in your area that can help you learn how to jump later on.



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[*] posted on 8-10-2009 at 08:38 PM


i don't think anyone around flys i live in south new jersey. will i be able to get some air with this kite though???
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[*] posted on 8-10-2009 at 08:47 PM


In the wrong conditions yes. But for a 2m kite you're looking at over 20 mph winds. And like i said if it does take you in the air, prepare to come down like a rock.



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[*] posted on 9-10-2009 at 03:15 AM


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i don't think anyone around flys i live in south new jersey. will i be able to get some air with this kite though???


A bunch of us were in Jersey just last weekend. See http://www.njbuggyclub.com/



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[*] posted on 9-10-2009 at 04:27 AM


bad idea to jump on a small kite. yep very possible. there are a few videos about. The lack of float is a big problem, also the kite is really fast when powered up enough to jump, at 14 yrs your reflexes should be excellent but mine are already slowing down at 43 yrs... They're really nervous jumps also really fast / grabby and not very predictable, and so more dangerous and reckless than fun.

now the trouble is dangerous and reckless seems a lot more fun at 14 than at 43, and many of us count ourselves lucky to have survived those years.... so really going straight for air with a 2m is a bad idea, though you would likely find it quite fun.

good idea to learn to scud / hold the power, also learn to fly without looking at the kite.

then get another kite, and then another...

keep working up the sizes, start jumping at around 4m or so, but only after you are good with it in lighter winds.

if you have some skills, sounds like you do (not that you'd need them to get in the door) , most folks on here would be very happy to help you out / fly with you a bit, tho yes at your age at least some discussion with your parents is advisable.

and be open to all the other possibilities of kiting, jumping is just the tip of the iceberg.

edit... here's the video i was thinking of earlier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNDYw-lAdRc

if you were to hang out with some other kiters and insist on jumping a 2m at your skill level, most would likely avoid you as a pretty serious risk, this is a 3.3 with easily 4x the lift of your beamer. In other words, with your beamer all that tumbling in the video would be happening at least twice as quickly.

flying the small kites overpowered is just plain rolling the dice on your life.



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[*] posted on 9-10-2009 at 06:53 AM


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i don't think anyone around flys i live in south new jersey. will i be able to get some air with this kite though???

if you insist on jumping with a 2m kite,get a good team of doctors that you can trust to perform your surgeries,also a good physical therapist for the many months of rehab you will go thru --if however, you decide that jumping isnt for you right now, i'd say get a 3m beamer or something like it--that will give you plenty to do at 115 lbs.......
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[*] posted on 9-10-2009 at 11:09 AM


Good advice... and even wear a helmet to practice anyway... go with a bigger kite and less wind... and have more fun learning to jump a bit... Even I find a 4m very fast...

3m Ozone Flow could be sweet too as an entry fixed foil to float a bit... and you'll be gaining weight, but also not to be flown in too much wind... Kite with others around too...

You may only plan to jump 2-3 feet but a gust of wind can take you up higher then you drop fast. Falling from 2-3ft compared to 10-12+ is huge... Stick with smother clean winds...

Snowkiting... I have to be careful hitting 48... live to kite your later years... You have many to come. Here I'm on a 4m Ozone Access (Depower Foil) more forgiving but cost more (you can let the bar out to depower and let some power from gusts go by, pull in for power but let out for less...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB6zsUnxvJA

Young guys are more resilient... like this... Wall smash example indoors no kite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZBbtk47vZw

But getting to excited in kiting can be dangerous...
Wind can be more unpredictable than hitting Wall and the kite can keep pulling...

Have a look at this at :35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTCMH8YEDwg



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[*] posted on 9-10-2009 at 12:03 PM


oh well is anyone selling 5m-8m kites cheap or does anyone who lives in south jersey wann fly with me one day and teach me
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[*] posted on 13-10-2009 at 11:50 AM


small kites, high winds equals dangerous and especially for a beginner. even our resident experts can demonstrate this.




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[*] posted on 13-10-2009 at 12:46 PM


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small kites, high winds equals dangerous and especially for a beginner. even our resident experts can demonstrate this.
ive seen this vid before--i think the song is PERFECT for the vid LMAO
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[*] posted on 13-10-2009 at 01:25 PM


I know you are anxious to jump, I was too! Who can blame you? Jumping is a blast! Here's the thing though, jumping takes a LOT of time and practice. You have to know your kite and winds as well as you know yourself. You have to be able to fly the kite blind before you even attempt. You have to have a kite that provides both lift and float. (Usually 5m and up, NOT a good first power kite) I know its not what you want to hear but look for a solid 3m, get good with that, then slowly move up from there. I've been flying for about 6 months and I'm just now getting 5 footers in the right wind. (I'm also 200 pound using a 5.6) and don't think that 3m won't put a hurt on you, my viper 2.6 still beats the *#@! Out of my on a heavy wind day :) work up to the right skill level and you will have years of jumping fun to come!



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[*] posted on 13-10-2009 at 01:30 PM


what mougl said.



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[*] posted on 13-10-2009 at 04:15 PM


ditto:thumbup:
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[*] posted on 13-10-2009 at 04:53 PM


A couple of things I forgot to mention...


I purchased my 5.6m as my first kite. HUGE mistake! Ended up purchasing the 2.6m very shortly after. (Should have done that in the first place) Even though I love my 5.6, the 2.6 is still an absolute joy to fly, especially when the winds are too much for the 5.6 so please dont make the same mistake I made. (it WILL save you money)

IF you decide to do what I did and not listen to advice from the kite gurus here on PKF (no, I dont consider myself a guru.....yet) at least buy some pads and a GOOD helmet. I learned about the helmet thing the hard way.

Fly safe man and have fun!!! :bouncing:



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