It's just a tad unfair, as the hapless guy wasn't using lines.
Flying by bridles in such high wind can be...challenging. I think you have to start the handles and lines exactly even, else you go right into the
Death Spiral.
But I was recently able to get a decent downwind sess on a 4.8 NPW5 when a 12m depower foil just wouldn't stay up in the light breeze.
Hey snobdr...you know some folks have experimented with inflated edge NPWs? ;-)
I have to chime in to say just one thing. I dont like Nasa Wings. I have a 2.4m NPW that I have flown in a variety of conditions. I just don't care
for it. I have nothing against the kites, I just dont like flying them. Too much brake input for me. I'll stick with my depowers, personally. Its
really just a matter of personal preference, and I prefer to not fly them.
when i first flow my NASA 5 4.8. it was strange..but as i became a better flyer with it was really fun usable kite . requires a unique "balanced "
handle flying. a sliding strop made it even better. certainly not a front line biased kite. for the money hard to beat the fun factor.
indestructible to boot. limited fun, but fun for everyone.
with the lines, w/o the lines fun for cruising ...in high winds just like that guy i've had some monster ATB sessions. unfortunately after about 20
min. your arms/hands are smoked and far to dangerous to hook in.
WHAT I RIDE:
Kite Skates, Libre Full Race, GI Conflict 106, OR Mako 140, Spleene Door 159
What I Am In The Market For: Peter Lynn Vapors, Weatherproof Kite Buggy Bag for Libre, PL or Flexi Small Buggy to Tow With, Flexi Pro Link Handles,
Flexi Lines, Flexi Kite Killers
The guy would have done a lot better if he would of baged up the kite and flew something smaller. Just like foils you need to fly smaller kites for
high winds. I just noticed that he is flying it as a two line kite which allows the flyer a lot less control.
Susan (npw goddess)
PKD Brooza\'s 2, 3, 4 and 5.5 meter
Libre Bora\'s 6 and 7 meter
Libre stainless full race with standard and big foot light wheels
Nasa wings: npw5 0.4, 0.8, 1.2, 1.7, 2.4, 3.1, 3.9, 4.8, 5.8, 6.9 meters
npw9 3.4, 5.3, 6.0, 8.0, 9.0, 10.0, 11.0, 15.0 meters
Quadrifoil xm for sale
I think he is flying it 2 line and that's as dumb as flying it in that wind.
I say that if foils and lei's hadn't been inveted I would have thought the Nasa Wing was awsome. It's a joy having one in the kit even if it only gets
out a now and then!
npw`s. some people hate them. some people love them.
i for one love them. why??? just hold the kite in one hand. let the short lines out and throw the kite down kite. cheap power. who cares if i run over
with my back wheel. just buy other one. there cheap enough.
susan may be the npw goddess.
but i`m the npw KING.( FIRST PLACE WINNER OF ALL 3 NPW RACES AT NABX) we even got a name for ourself. RAG FLAPPERS.
Agreed! I love my 4.8, and have used it when nothing else would work. I think putting it on short lines would allow for a much longer run on
Southwick Beach, to negotiate where the trees get close to the water. Hey Ragden, is that an HQ model NPW you have? If you don't like flying it, and
want to sell it, I will buy it from you when you come up for snowkiting this winter! b
Team MEAN GREEN
Bob Lussier
OUTLAW KITER 1.4M Beamer III, 2M Beamer IV,2M
Toxic HQ , 7.5MApex III, HQ, Quadrifoil XXXL (9.66M), NPW5 2.4,4.8m,
NPW9 3.4M(HQ),NPW9 7M (RASTA\'S FURY),
NPW9 7.6M (BIGSISTAH),NPW9 12MGREENMONSTER(km4), P L Comp ST buggy,PL Bigfoot+
buggy, Atomic Alibi Snowboard, Protec Knee/Elbow Pads & Helmet, Seirus wristguards, Demon crash shorts, LaCross chest/shoulder pads.
(tryin\' to be safe!)
Originally posted by bobalooie57
Agreed! I love my 4.8, and have used it when nothing else would work. I think putting it on short lines would allow for a much longer run on
Southwick Beach, to negotiate where the trees get close to the water. Hey Ragden, is that an HQ model NPW you have? If you don't like flying it, and
want to sell it, I will buy it from you when you come up for snowkiting this winter! b
Sure. All yours. We can negotiate on the price as I have no idea what its worth. Nor am I overly concerned about price.
ist it true that a NPW must be the best lightwind kite (in the lower price segment)? it must have the lowest weight per projected squaremeter! even
lower than a c-quad ..
can someone please put his nasawing on a scale? kitemaker4?
whats the weight of your 11sqm npw9? what estimated projected area does it have?
(i am asking because i have a thread running that compares the weight of kites per proj.sqm as an indicator of lightwind performance: http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2360753 )
thanks in advance!
Obviously those of you that don't like NPW's don't know how to fly them, they take a little time to get used to. The trick if using a harness is to
move your strop down the handles about an inch and a half, this balances the power to brake ratio out tremendously. I have at least 13 NPW's from .7
to 15m. I can fly all of them with no hands, it's all about the setup. As for the guy in the video, smarts always wins over stupidity, pick the right
size kite for the wind conditions. NPW's ROCK!!!!!
Brad
What I Fly!!!
PKD Buster .7m----PKD Brooza I 5.5m----JOJO RM+ 2m----JOJO Instinct 1.5m---- JOJO Instinct 2.5m---- JOJO Instinct 5.5m---- JOJO WET 8m----JOJO Session
7.5m----Flexifoil Sting 1.2m----Flexifoil Sting 1.7m---- Flexifoil Bullet 1.5m----Flexifoil Blade I 3.3m----Flexifoil Blade III 4m---- Flexifoil Blade
IV 6.5m----Flexifoil Blade III 8.5m----Libra Bora 2m---- Ozone Razor 4.5m---- Force10 2.1m----NPW5 1.7m----NPW5 2.4m----NPW5 3.1m----NPW5 4.8m----NPW5
6.9m----(2) NPW9 3.4m----(3)NPW9 5.3m----NPW9 10m----NPW9 15m----NPW TEEGA 4.3m----NPW TEEGA 2.2m----NPW TEEGA .8m---- Modified Libre Full Race
Buggy----Home Built Aluminum Iceflyer/Windflyer Landsailor
If you hadn\'t realized yet.......................Yes I am ADDICTED TO WIND!!!!!
NAPKRA Club #13 Coordinator (Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma)
US44
It's true that kites are not equal- some are better in the light than others. The very best light wind fliers are NASA style single skin frameless
kites- they fly in winds you can barely feel. When Chris Brent and I tested NASA's against Arcs using identical KiteCats in 2005, we found not only
that the NASA's allowed kitesailing in much lighter winds, but that the performance crossover was at much higher wind speed than we expected. NASA's
have L/D's of around 3, Arcs >5, but even when the wind was more than enough to allow the Arc to be parked solidly in a corner (+/-15km/hr), a
NASA of similar size would still beat it around an upwind/downwind course.
I love Nahant but rarely get there anymore.
Skis, skates, coyotes, buggy, Beamer 1.8, Apex 3III,'Flow 3 & 5, Peak1 6 & 9, Venom1 10 & 12. Wings Wings Wings.
Man, I was going to find that Peter Lynn link and Doneski was all over it.
I don't own any NPW's, but I've modded the handles on a friends NPW9 5.8 m like bbrex described and he's right about it balancing the load on the
handles. Without a strop, try moving your hands lower on the handles and it'll lighten up the brakes - same thing.
Flying it right off the bridlles was fun time on skis and a great way for someone to get the hang of moving with the kite without generating the surge
of power you get as the kite accelerates on lines. I can imagine them being fun flown from bridles with ice skates or inlines.
krumly
Flying:
1.5 m Ozone LD Stunt
2.2, 3.2, 4.2 m C-Quads
2, 3, 4, 5.5, 7.5m PKD Broozas
9m PL GII, w/ adjustable rear strap mod
Dual mode mod PL GI 13, HArc 6, FArc 12
Cab 5m Convert, 7&9m Xbow, 12m SB
Lots of stunt kites and a Rev Supersonic
Riding:
Libre Special buggy, PL Comp buggy
Line skiboards, & Lib-Tech Park & Pipes
Cabrinha Prodigy kiteboard
Originally posted by herc
ist it true that a NPW must be the best lightwind kite (in the lower price segment)? it must have the lowest weight per projected squaremeter! even
lower than a c-quad ..
can someone please put his nasawing on a scale? kitemaker4?
whats the weight of your 11sqm npw9? what estimated projected area does it have?
(i am asking because i have a thread running that compares the weight of kites per proj.sqm as an indicator of lightwind performance: http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2360753 )
thanks in advance!
Nasa wings do cost a lot less than anything else out there and being a single skin kite with bridle line they have less weight too.
It has been raining all day so to weigh the 11 meter I need to take off the lines and need to lay it out in the yard to do that. It will have to be
another day of two. So there is water everywhere. When I get a chance I will put it on a scale and let you know.
Susan (npw goddess)
PKD Brooza\'s 2, 3, 4 and 5.5 meter
Libre Bora\'s 6 and 7 meter
Libre stainless full race with standard and big foot light wheels
Nasa wings: npw5 0.4, 0.8, 1.2, 1.7, 2.4, 3.1, 3.9, 4.8, 5.8, 6.9 meters
npw9 3.4, 5.3, 6.0, 8.0, 9.0, 10.0, 11.0, 15.0 meters
Quadrifoil xm for sale
@kitemaker4: thank you very much for soon taking some time to weigh the NPW. it must not necessarily be the 11 sqm - just one of the bigger NPW's,
because i think they will have a slightly better weight per squaremeter ratio.
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